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Is the literal translation better then guessing the meaning?

For example the song La Carcacha by Selena

A line from the song is en la esquina yo esperando someone translated the line like this as usual in the corner I wait. I got on the corner I wait.

Which translation would be correct? Is it because the person guess at the meaning or is it because I did the literal meaning?

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updated Apr 11, 2014
posted by Rozalyn01581

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Hi, Roz:

The first lines are:

En la esquina yo esperando.

Como siempre su novia fiel.

Mis amigas se están burlando.

Murmuran cosas de él.

(Estribillo)

Carcacha paso a pasito.

No dejes de tambalear.

The meaning is approximately:

I'm waiting for him at the corner as usual,

because I am her faithfull girlfriend.

My friends are making a mockery.

They mutter things about him.

(Chorus)

Jalopy, step by step,

Keep moving!

Spanish is my mother tongue, so I don't know it my attempt sounds good in Englis. I'm sure you could help me to improme it.

updated Apr 10, 2014
edited by LuisCache
posted by LuisCache
Thanks very much - Rozalyn01581, Apr 10, 2014
:-) You are wellcome! - LuisCache, Apr 10, 2014
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In general when translating you want to capture the meaning of the text, lyrics or whatever you're trying to translate. Literal translations are not always possible and can often lead to an incorrect translation.

A line from the song is en la esquina yo esperando someone translated the line like this as usual in the corner I wait. I got on the corner I wait.

Regarding this example, I would translate it as....

I'm waiting for you on the corner

In the line you posted there is no reference to "as usual".

en la esquina = "on the corner" . If it were "in the corner" they would have used the word "rincón", which is the type of corner where walls meet.

updated Apr 10, 2014
posted by rodneyp
Thanks :) - Rozalyn01581, Apr 10, 2014
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I am waiting at/on the corner, like always your/his faithful girlfriend. My girlfriends are joking, muttering things about him.

This is my take on the first part.

The second part seems to be talking about "something step by step not stopping stumbling. I have problems with this part.

updated Apr 10, 2014
edited by gringojrf
posted by gringojrf
:) sí, no son buenas amigas. - annierats, Apr 10, 2014
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@roz84:

When I looked up "en" in my Spanish/English dictionary yes the first word was in but the next word was on which I thought would make more sense to the sentence. When translating when you do translate isn't possible that you might have to switch words around to make sense and/ or add words?

Of course you have to switch around some words etc, in order for you to make sense of what's being said in Spanish, that's the whole purpose of translating literally, word for word, to your native language.

90% of the time you are going to have it right if not higher, but as you become accustomed to this system, your odds improve.

Now try like everybody does, from your native language to Spanish, and you don't know if the resulting Spanish phrase/sentence is correct. Because you don't know the language. Simple. Then you have to rely on anybody else to tell you their "piece" and hopefully you are going to get it some day. So, it is reasonable for people to say and recommend not to translate literally, but this is true in one direction, but not in the other.

See?

Edit: You are the second person that sees/percieves that notion. :-D

updated Apr 11, 2014
edited by chileno
posted by chileno
Got it thanks - Rozalyn01581, Apr 11, 2014
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Chileno,

When I looked up "en" in my Spanish/English dictionary yes the first word was in but the next word was on which I thought would make more sense to the sentence. When translating when you do translate isn't possible that you might have to switch words around to make sense and/ or add words?

updated Apr 11, 2014
posted by Rozalyn01581
My advise is that you should try not to translate word by word but phrase by phrase instead, looking for a translation that sounds natural in your mother tongue. In Spanish, the normal would be: Estoy en la esquina esperando. - LuisCache, Apr 10, 2014
Luis has given you solid advice. Make translations based on phrases or entire sentences and always make sure the translation sounds natural in your native language. - rodneyp, Apr 10, 2014
Luis how would I go about doing that? - Rozalyn01581, Apr 10, 2014
It is not easy at first. It takes a lot of practice. The better you now the English grammar the better you'll translate from another language into English. But be patient and if you can compare other translations. - LuisCache, Apr 10, 2014
What about stress marks on certain words doesn't that change the meaning of the word? - Rozalyn01581, Apr 10, 2014
Yes it can Roz84. Don't worry so much about translating, rather focus on learning more Spanish and getting a deeper understanding of the Spanish you already know. That will make you a better translator. - rodneyp, Apr 10, 2014
Okay thanks - Rozalyn01581, Apr 10, 2014
Roz: look at my other reply. Yes please, so translate, bu in the correct direction, there is so much you know in your language that can be utilized to help you accomplish your goal. You don't have to re-invent the wheel each and everytime on a new project - chileno, Apr 11, 2014
So a good dictionary is all I need good to know :) - Rozalyn01581, Apr 11, 2014
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First of all, a direct translation will be:

en la esquina yo esperando = in the corner I/me waiting

Now, you also have to take into account the context, in order to understand in English what's being said in Spanish.

without anymore context I would translate that as follows:

at the corner, me, waiting.

Notice the commas.

Again, this is without anymore context.

Now, you are doing something good. You have to translate literally, word by word, from Spanish to English, simply because English is what you understand.

See?

updated Apr 11, 2014
edited by chileno
posted by chileno
I think I understand what your saying. - Rozalyn01581, Apr 10, 2014