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Why is the following correct:

"Estaba en el medio de algo"

While this one is not:

"Estuve en el medio de algo"

What i meant to say is "Sorry, i was in the middle of something"

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updated Jan 14, 2014
edited by idanr84
posted by idanr84

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"Estuve en el medio de algo esta mañana a las ocho". - dennywells

Pardon me for jumping in, but the above phrase "esta mañana a los ocho" doesn't alter the fact that for an unknown amount of time "I was in the middle of something", estaba en el medio de algo.

My argentinian friend told me "estuve" is just incorrect, so I guess it doesn't really matter if I completed the action or not. - idanr84

Of course it does, that's why your friend said it was wrong. As your friend said,
"Estoy en el medio de algo" - I am (currently)
"Estaba en el medio de algo" - I was (for an undetermined amount of time)
"Estuve en el medio de algo" - It just does not make sense, the tense doesn't work, it's like the phrase is demanding some other information. For example:
Ayer cuando me llamaste no pude hablar contigo porque estaba en el medio de algo.
Yesterday when you called (a precise instance of time) I couldn't talk (a precise instance of time) to you because I was (don't know when it started or whether or not it was finished) in the middle of something.

updated Jan 16, 2014
posted by Jack-OBrien
Estuve en el medio de algo hasta las ocho y luego termine? - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
It's get protracted when "the friend" never explains. - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
"Tomé desayuno a las siete" correct? - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
Aunque es terminada, fue una cantidad de tiempo indeterminada. ¿Cuándo lo empezaste? a las siete? siete y quince? Aun, es una cantidad de tiempo que no es "un instante", fue un período de tiempo. - Jack-OBrien, Jan 14, 2014
I copied that right out of a grammar book (501 Spanish verbs) as an example given for the use of the preterit - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
I'm wondering if the verb itself, if used in the proper context, helps convey that the action ended - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
In the book it was translated to I 'did have' breakfast at seven. - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
As if English has a helper verb and Spanish relies on the preterit tense to clarify. - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
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I think the phrase means something like "I was in the middle of something." Having more context is always helpful in understanding something like this but, one of the cases in which the imperfect (estaba) is used is when the stage is being set for something else that happened such as "I was reading a book when the telephone rang." "Estaba leyendo un libro cuando sonó el teléfono." The phrase "I was in the middle of something sounds like the stage is being set for something else.

updated Jan 14, 2014
edited by kirk1
posted by kirk1
I added more context to the original question. Thanks - idanr84, Jan 14, 2014
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See if this clears it up:

There are two simple past tenses, the imperfect indicative and the preterit.

"Imperfect" suggests incomplete. If you trace the meaning of the word perfect or perfection back to it's Latin roots it comes from "perficio" — "to finish", "to bring to an end."

So the 'imperfect' indicative expresses an action or state in the past that was continuous and it's completion was not indicated.

The preterit expresses an action that was completed some time in the past.

With that in mind, does the sentence "I was in the middle of something" express an action that was completed, or one that was continuous and it's completion was not indicated?

updated Jan 16, 2014
edited by dennywells
posted by dennywells
My argentinian friend told me "estuve" is just incorrect, so I guess it doesn't really matter if I completed the action or not. - idanr84, Jan 14, 2014
Think of it this way. You were in the middle of something. When did it begin? When did it end? - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
You don't. All you know from the sentence is that it was going on (continuously), and you were not told if it ended (was not perfected). - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
So estaba is the imperfect, it fits the sentence. - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
Estuve is the preterit, to be used only if the action ended. That is why your friend is correct - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
The third comment should read "you don't know". - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
Just keep thinking about it and you'll get it! :) - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
When I said she said it's "incorrect" i meant no matter what are the cirumstances "estuve en el medio de algo" is just wrong. - idanr84, Jan 14, 2014
Could you ask her if the following sentence is correct or incorrect? - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
"Estuve en el medio de algo esta mañana a las ocho". - dennywells, Jan 14, 2014
I asked her and she responded "o usas Estoy o usas Estaba", So yes it's incorrect. - idanr84, Jan 14, 2014