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Ver, Oír, etc.

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Is there a difference between saying "Lo vi correr" and "Lo vi correindo"? My understanding is that for verbs like "ver" or "oír" or "esuchar" (so the senses) the former means the person I saw was running and the latter means I myself was running.

I'm not 100% sure so can someone clarify the difference between:

Miré a Juan caminar

Miré a Juan caminando.

Also, what about verbs that don't relate to the sense like

Encontré con Juan bailar

Encontré con Juan bailando

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updated Nov 26, 2013
posted by HackerKing
I hope a native speaker responds to this. I find it too subtle to attempt looking it up and I want to know, too. - Jubilado, Nov 26, 2013

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Lo vi correr = I saw run/running that way, and I haven't seen him since.

Lo vi corriendo = I saw him running while I was watering the plants and I have or not seen him again.

Me Encontré con Juan para bailar

Me Encontré con Juan bailando

Me Encontré a Juan bailando

Now, you translate those three to English and tell me what you think.

updated Nov 26, 2013
edited by chileno
posted by chileno
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"Lo vi correr". There is no doubt about this meaning.

"Lo vi corriendo". This could mean either, so context is needed or a different structure, ie: Mientras andaba (yo) por el parque lo vi corriendo / Corriendo (yo) en la mañana, lo vi sentado en el parque.

These are cases when the personal pronoun can help to avoid confusion and is not considered redundant.

updated Nov 26, 2013
posted by 005faa61
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Interesting. I don't know definitively, but in both cases, you've mentioned the direct object Lo, and conjugated the verb ver for 1st person and chosen two things that are the same verb in english (i.e. both could end in ing), so it doesn't make sense to me, at all.

But, of course, sometimes things are idiomatic, and don't make sense until (if even then) a more advanced speaker explains "that's just the way it is".

I hope I remember to look at this when I get back.

updated Nov 26, 2013
posted by rogspax
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For Chileno:

I got together (met) with Juan (in order) to dance.

I got together (met) with Juan while (I or he was) dancing.

I ran into Juan dancing (either I or he was dancing - not clear).

(this is what I think)

updated Nov 26, 2013
posted by Jubilado