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Why not subjunctive here? Another query palabra del dia September 12

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Palabra del dia of September 12 'reparar' - 'Tuve que llevar mi ordenador a la tienda para que me lo repararan'. Why no subjunctive after 'para que'?

Thanks

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updated Sep 19, 2013
edited by chris-keen
posted by chris-keen
Oops many thanks. B - chris-keen, Sep 12, 2013
You made a typo there. Actually, the example it's "repararan" but you wrote here "repararon". - 00483d91, Sep 12, 2013
chris-keen...for what it's worth, I think the answer from MS was quite harsh and you didn't deserve the dressing down that you received. Don't let it get to you. Perhaps he was having a bad day. It happens.. - 0095ca4c, Sep 12, 2013
Thanks - chris-keen, Sep 12, 2013

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I think there's an error in each of today's sentences: in the 1st, as you suggest, the subjunctive shd appear in the 2nd clause. Altho the sequence may already have been completed (I took the computer to the shop, and it was repaired), at the time the person took the computer for repair, whether or not it could be repaired was uncertain. Check the net--you will see hundreds of similar sentences that use "Tuvo que" in an initial clause and the subjunctive following "para que" in the 2nd. In the 2nd sentence, "no creo que" shd certainly invoke the subjunctive.

updated Sep 12, 2013
posted by dreaming_of_wales
Many thanks - chris-keen, Sep 12, 2013
Seriously? shd? Altho? - 00483d91, Sep 12, 2013
@MrSoprano...Good catch! It's not proper English. - 0095ca4c, Sep 12, 2013
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In the first example. The subjunctive is used in the second clause. "Para que me lo repararan" it's subjunctive. So, this question is nonsense.

About the second sentence, there is already a question about it and I wrote my opinion too.

One more thing: how can someone mark that as best answer when ...

  1. The question is formulated wrong given that the example is written in subjunctive?

  2. The answerer dreaming_of_wales apparently doesn't bother to read the example himself/herself and notice my previous statement?

  3. The aforementioned user write things like shd and altho?

This is a learning site and sometimes it looks like your intention is to confuse and misinform other users, which is disappointing.

updated Sep 19, 2013
edited by 00483d91
posted by 00483d91
Up at'em amigo :) - ian-hill, Sep 12, 2013
Goodness me! Apologies for generating such a strong response. Students sometimes make mistakes - apologies - chris-keen, Sep 12, 2013
Strong responses causes strong reactions :) I'm glad my message was received. - 00483d91, Sep 12, 2013
I feel suitably intimidated and it will be a long time before I risk asking another question. In future will take my queries elsewhere which is a shame as I think this is a great site. I love grammar and just want to get it right. - chris-keen, Sep 12, 2013
Come on! Your question was legit and I was just trying to get your attention. Don't take it to heart. - 00483d91, Sep 12, 2013
Chris - the problem is that you "accepted" an answer too quickly. Nothing more. - ian-hill, Sep 12, 2013
@Ian...another problem as I see it is the last sentence given by MS. I do not think that chris-keen was in any way trying to confuse or misinform other users. - 0095ca4c, Sep 12, 2013
This is a learning site. "Be nice. Treat everyone on the forum with respect." These answers and comments are not very respectful. Our goal here at SD, is to learn in a freindly environment. - rac1, Sep 19, 2013
Agreed! If a member is upset with another member’s manner of learning, bring it to the Moderators. Do not intimidate another member inside the forum. - bandit51jd, Sep 19, 2013
If anyone wants to discuss their personal feelings about a member this is done in a Personal Message to the Moderators not inside the forum, per the Moderator Overview. - bandit51jd, Sep 19, 2013