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La palabra del día: "inclusive"

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inclusive ( eehn-kloo-see-veh )

(adverb) including, even

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Examples:

1. Durante nuestro viaje a Ciudad del Cabo comimos de todo, inclusive gusanos.

We ate all kinds of things during our trip to Cape Town, even worms.

2. Los mudadores que empleé fueron de lo mejor. Inclusive me desmontaron y volvieron a montar uno de los muebles.

The movers I hired were the best. They even disassembled and reassembled one of the pieces of furniture.

I am sorry this is late. I have had too many irons in the fire today.

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updated Sep 1, 2013
posted by rac1
Always better late than never! Some days are just busy even for us retired folk! - Jubilado, Aug 30, 2013
In the second sentence: "Inclusive desmontaron/desarmaron y volvieron a montar/armar uno de los muebles." - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Thank you Jubilado. I was gone all day and soooo glad to get back home. It was very hot today too. Yikes! - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
Thanks, Susie. I hope I spelled your name correctly. :) - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
It's Susy, but I like Susie, too. :-) My name is Susana, but almost everybody calls me Susy. - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
I like Susana. It sounds regal. :) - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
I like it, too. :-) - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Hola annie! Espero que todo esté bien mi amiga:) - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
Hola JR! Todo está bien ahora que estás aquí, mi amigo.:) - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
You are never late, don't be silly! - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
I'm glad we sorted the spelling, Susy, I thought it was Suzy, for some reason! - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
What a difficult word! - annierats, Aug 30, 2013

12 Answers

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Difference between the use of "Inclusive" and "Incluso".

"Inclusive" is used with a very specific use: to include the last object named in the sentence. For example: Let's suppose that you have a bill to pay. You have to pay that bill between the days of September 5th and September 15th. So, that is when you use the word "inclusive". If you have any doubt if you can still pay your bill on the 15th, then in Spanish you will see/say something like this: "Usted puede pagar su cuenta entre el 5 y el 15 de Septiembre, inclusive." Meaning that you can pay even on the last day (including the 15th) Another example: "Tienes que escoger un número, del 1 al 10, ambos inclusive". Meaning that you can choose a number between 1 and 10, even/including both.

Now, "Incluso" is also an adverb, but it is more common and it means "hasta", "aun", "también", "así mismo", "incluyendo".

So far, in the two examples given in the original question, and the two posts from zhmelissa and Jubilado have used "inclusive" when in fact "incluso" is the correct word for those sentences.

I hope you can all understand my English.

updated Sep 28, 2013
posted by 00e46f15
Thank you Sylyon for the clarification. :) - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
Thanks sylyon , one can use the same word in almost the same way in English . - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
Wow, I¨m glad to read down to here before giving up, because I´d learned it as incluso too, and was very confused, and afraid maybe I´d been doing it wrong. - rogspax, Aug 30, 2013
And yes, as Ray says, we can also use inclusive the say way for numbers, math, dates etc. We also use the phrase ¨up to and including¨ to mean the same - rogspax, Aug 30, 2013
And your English is super easy to understand. I wish my Spanish were half as good. - rogspax, Aug 30, 2013
Thank you, rogspax. I've been trying for 15 years, so far. I married an American guy, so he learned Spanish from me, and I knew the basics of English, but nothing is better than to communicate/speak the language with a native speaker! :-) - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
I think I used it as a verb , not an adverb:(((!!! - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
Oh susie Q!!!! - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
I am now feeling a little devastated and bereft, but as with all things I shall overcome this momentous loss , I don't know whather to crawl away and sob , or open a bottle of overproof Rum , the latter I think, the tears taste nicer. - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
Thank you Susy! Excellent explanation. - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
Ray, you are very funny! Deberías ser comediante! Saludos, amigo! - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
You are welcome, Annie! :-) - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Thanks for the lesson. This is very helpful. - katydew, Aug 31, 2013
Do you know, henceforth I'll just say '' hasta'' or '' incluso''. Good lesson! - annierats, Aug 31, 2013
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Estoy preocupada sobre la situación que existe en La Linea de la Concepción , que es la frontera entre Gibraltar y España. Al parecer hay muchas demoras porque la guardia aduanal está revisando minuciosamente todo lo que pasa por ahí; hasta a los turistas e incluso sus coches y equipaje.

I'm worried about the situation in La Linea de la Concepción, the border between Gibraltar and Spain. Apparently there are long delays because the border police are doing so many checks , even checking tourists including their cars and luggage.

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updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by annierats
posted by annierats
Suzy, I've tried to pay attention to your answer...I'm still not sure! - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
Susy, I mean! - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
incluso sus carros y equipaje." Inclusive does not go here, Annie. - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
You came up with a great one Annie - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
"Estoy preocupada sobre la situación que existe en La Línea de la Concepción", que es la frontera entre Gibraltar y España. Al parecer hay muchas demoras porque la policía aduanal está revisando minuciosamente todo lo que pasa por ahí; a los turistas e - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
That's good Susy, I had strong doubt, I tried hard, but I cna't think I've heard inclusive, not that I ever noticed, so now I'm learning. - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
If it wasn't that I'm flying there on Sunday I wouldn't be so interested in this minor conflict.. - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
It's a hard word annie. Have a safe trip:) - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
It is a hard word, and rare. "Incluso" is a lot more common. - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Lol, they would pick a word hardly ever used. - rac1, Aug 31, 2013
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Yo cociné la cena de esta noche.

El menú incluyó incluia judias verdes ejotes que crecin yo mismo planté en mi jardin.

I cooked dinner tonight.

The menu included green beans that I picked from my garden.

updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by Jraider
posted by Jraider
JRaider, you are using the verb "incluir" in your sentence. The "word of the day" is "inclusive", which is different. Here is the correction: "Yo cociné la cena de esta noche. El menú incluyó ejotes que yo mismo planté en mi jardín." - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
I'm jealous, I want a garden, too. - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
Gracias susy! You are the best:))))! - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
I had them tonight cooked in butter , gorgeous . - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
Good job JR, green beans are good for us. - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
Thank you JRaider. You are doing really well! - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
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Compré algunas persianas en una tienda local. La dependienta era

fue muy amable conmigo

e incluso me dieron dio un descuento.

I bought some blinds at a local store, the sales girl was very friendly

even gave me a discount.

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updated Aug 30, 2013
edited by ray76
posted by ray76
Another use of " inclusive " in English . - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
"Compré algunas persianas en una tienda local. La dependienta fue muy amable conmigo e incluso me dio un descuento." - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Jajajaja - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
Blinded by the bikinis???? - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
I was blindsided mate , thanks JR ,I love your comments. - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
@Sylyon, thank you , I mixed up preterit and simple past , what an idiot , and fue and era is still knotting up my nether regions , it will come one day . - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
Please, don't call yourself an idiot, OK? You are doing really well. - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Enjoy mate! - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
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Tenemos corredores de todas edades, incluso niños. Este fin de semana tuvimos once 11.

We have racers of all ages, even children. This last weekend, 11.

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updated Aug 30, 2013
edited by rogspax
posted by rogspax
"Tenemos corredores de todas edades, incluso niños. Este fin de semana tuvimos once." How fun! - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
I hope they don't get hurt. - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
Enjoy the children rog:) - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
We have geriatric racers too, I think that they are not only "trail blazers " but" trail markers" - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
And rac1 no worries. The little ones never seem to get hurt. It's those of us still racing a bit older that don't bounce so well. - rogspax, Aug 30, 2013
Thanks for the corrections syhlyon. And Ray, yes, years after the blazing, comes the marking. Too true. But if everyone is still having fun, it´s all good. - rogspax, Aug 30, 2013
:-) - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
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I liked the movie made in the 1980's called "Batteries Not Included". Me gustó la película hecha en los años ochentas llamada 'Baterías/Pilas no incluídas.

updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by pmikan-pam
posted by pmikan-pam
I think this is cheating! After I spent hours trying to think upa viable use, you come up with thsi, grr, I'm green with envy. - annierats, Aug 30, 2013
Sorry Annie, it sounds like a great title for the next sequel though Jejeje - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
... en los años ochentas llamada 'Baterías/Pilas no incluídas." - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Gracias sylyon! - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
What's the movie about pammy? - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
Good one Pamalita! - rac1, Aug 31, 2013
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Esta pregunta mía es tan difícil, nadie puede contestarme, inclusive mi profesor.

This question of mine is too difficult, no one can answer me, even my professor.

Meanwhile I have a question, can I use hasta to replace inclusive here? Thanks.

updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by zhmelissa
posted by zhmelissa
Very nice, Melissa! :) - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
I would say no to "hasta" for "inclusive. Wait until sylyon checks it. - Jubilado, Aug 30, 2013
I don´t know about this one, maybe Susy can comment, but I´m fairly sure I´ve seen hasta used in this sense, or at least a very similar one. I would cautiously say yes. - rogspax, Aug 30, 2013
"Esta pregunta mía es tan difícil, que nadie me la puede contestar, incluso mi profesor." If you want to use "hasta": "Mi pregunta es tan difícil que hasta mi profesor no pudo contestarla." I hope it helps! :) - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Great question - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
So here, incluso or inclusive? - zhmelissa, Aug 30, 2013
Read my comment above, zhmelissa. - 00e46f15, Aug 31, 2013
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Habrá treinta personas a la fiesta inclusive los niños de mis hermanos incluyendo mis sobrinos. (looks like this is not a Word of the Day sentence, sorry, friends) This it moot! I read the rest of the postings.

There will be thirty people at the party including my nieces and nephews. (By the way for those learning English I always say it in this order "nieces and nephews" to me it just flows better)

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updated Aug 30, 2013
edited by Jubilado
posted by Jubilado
Thanks, are you staying up late? I'm signing off for today. - Jubilado, Aug 30, 2013
Triple posting happens to me too. I really think the system is acting up. I'm trying to find out. :) - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
Rac1 , it is because it is a leap-year. - ray76, Aug 30, 2013
"Habrá treinta personas en la fiesta, incluyendo los niños de mis hermanos (mis sobrinos)." - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Enjoy Jubilado:) - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
Good times - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
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Cientos de personas fueron evacuados después del terremoto, incluso su familia.

Hundreds of persons were evacuated after the earthquake, including his family.

updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by 00b5f6c6
posted by 00b5f6c6
Sad situation - rac1, Aug 30, 2013
A shaky situation:) - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
Hola lilium - pmikan-pam, Aug 30, 2013
Hello rac1 and Jraider. I couldn't figure out nothing better :) - 00b5f6c6, Aug 30, 2013
Hola pmikan-pam :) - 00b5f6c6, Aug 30, 2013
"Cientos de personas fueron evacuados después del terremoto, incluso su familia." - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Gracias Susy :) Que tengas un buen dia!! - 00b5f6c6, Aug 30, 2013
De nada, Lilium! - 00e46f15, Aug 31, 2013
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The receptionist told me that there were appointments available from the 12th to the 30th.

La recepcionista me dijo que habían citas disponibles desde el 12 hasta el 30, inclusive.

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updated Sep 1, 2013
edited by katydew
posted by katydew
I think you got it! You're the first one if so! - Jubilado, Aug 31, 2013
receptionist, you need to change it to "La recepcionista..." ---- Yo creo que si fuiste la primera persona que me hizo caso! :-) - 00e46f15, Aug 31, 2013
Katy, the only correction is to add an "s" to disponible. ... citas disponibles..." Another thing, it is rare to see a male receptionist, so if it is a male receptionist "El" is fine, but it is usually a female receptionist. So, in case it is a female - 00e46f15, Aug 31, 2013
What a word we have to deal with. - rac1, Aug 31, 2013
Thanks everyone, and especially for your help on this one, Sylyon. I had put "la" recepcionista then went to the SD dictionary to check myself... it said "el" so I changed my original. Thanks for letting me clear that up. - katydew, Sep 1, 2013
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En inglés la palabra "inclusive" a veces significa que no se excluya a nadie, pero pienso que el cognado en español "inclusive" no es igual en significado. Por ejemplo si una religión está abierta a todas las maneras de vida, sería descrito como un "inclusive religion" en inglés. ¿Se describe en español con la palabra "inclusive"?

In English the word "inclusive" sometimes means that no one is excluded, but I think that the cognate in Spanish "inclusive" doesn't have the same meaning. For example if a religion is open to all life styles, it would be described as an "inclusive" religion. Would this be described in Spanish with the word "inclusive"?

No, según nuestra maestra es religión inclusiva (no inclusive - es similar pero no iqual).

No according to our teacher it's "religión inclusiva" (not "inclusive" - it's similar but not equal).

updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by Jubilado
posted by Jubilado
No se amigo:) - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
"Inclusive religion" in Spanish means "Religión inclusiva". - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
Thanks for the extra information. :) - rac1, Aug 31, 2013
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Como cualquiera cosa cubierta con chocolate, inclusive incluso los insectos.

I will eat anything covered with chocolate, even insects.

updated Aug 31, 2013
edited by mstivers
posted by mstivers
Bon appetit!!!! - Jraider, Aug 30, 2013
Only change "inclusive" for "incluso". --- I like chocolate, but not with a cucaracha inside! :-0 I'll die first! - 00e46f15, Aug 30, 2013
If those are roaches, G R O S S! - rac1, Aug 31, 2013