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"The worst sin"Translation exercise; All levels .

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El peor pecado es ser, indiferente.

The worst sin is to be indifferent.

George Bernard Shaw

Please correct my sentence .

Try not to be indifferent to this statement

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updated Sep 1, 2013
edited by ray76
posted by ray76
Hi there Ray! Capitalize first letter in the sentence. And, I don't know in English, but in Spanish all commas can be omitted and the message will not change. The second one at least. First one could be a 'dramatic pause'. :D - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
I agree amigo - no comma before "but" or "and" but that is British English. - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2013
Thanks mate I had not noticed that , good spotting. - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
Thanks Ian , at least I am not being ignored , I feel privileged . - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
:) - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2013
Indifference is the greatest crime of all I think. - 0095ca4c, Aug 26, 2013
I think there are worse things, but yu're right, in a way. Not sure. You're a thought prooker, Ray. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
Yes you are very thought provoking Ray, but we love it. - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
@ Margherite , I am indifferent to that . - ray76, Aug 27, 2013

7 Answers

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"El mejor desprecio es no hacer aprecio."

or

"No hay mayor desprecio que no hacer aprecio."

A literal translation would be: "The biggest disdain/scorn lies in not paying any attention". We say that when we are mad to at someone and we choose not showing to show our anger as a symbol of disdain. Because indifference can be much more hurtful than words.

The closest English idiom that I found is "Don't pay any attention to the critics. Don't even ignore them!"

[Feel free to correct my English. Thank you]

updated Aug 27, 2013
edited by 003492fc
posted by 003492fc
"when we are mad at someone" Just that one word is all i could see mate , it is perfct. - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
Thank you :) - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
Better -" and we choose not to show our anger" - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
...at someone and we choose "not to show" our anger... - Jubilado, Aug 26, 2013
Thank you very much. I though I could use both: "verb+gerund" and "verb+prep+infinitive". By the way, I hope the text format doesn't bother you. I'm just testing. - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
Interesting. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
@atxeko - "choose not to show" is best - it is to do with parallelism in English. - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2013
@ Ian , thanks mate you have such a sexy way with words. Seriously atxeko , Ian is the master where English is concerned , so I breathe a sigh of relief knowing I did well , as did you my friend , I make far more mistakes in English than you do. - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
Thank you very much. I appreciate your corrections. Parallelism in grammar is new for me. Thanks again :) - 003492fc, Aug 27, 2013
Congratulations amigo! - pmikan-pam, Aug 27, 2013
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Sin is to miss (fall short or come short of) the mark, the goal.

Since sin is often associated with the Bible, I refer to all my studies of the Scriptures. In regards to both words, I learned that sin is falling short, while transgression is a willful act against.

Indifference is a voluntary act to ignore all signs, suggestions, and outright notices. To the rest of the world, indifference can be seen as sin, but inside the heart, the individual, indifference is nothing short of transgression.

My Spanish translation attempt (of the whole explanation):

El pecado significa fallar el marco, el objectivo. En la Biblia, donde el pecado está usado mucho, hay una otro palabra, la transgresión y significa un acto deliberado contra una otra persona o la instrucción.

Está indiferente significa un acto deliberado ignorar todo. Las personas ven la indiferencia como el pecado, pero en la corazón de la persona, la indiferencia está toda una transgresión.

updated Sep 1, 2013
posted by SaigeSmith
A very interesting explanation , thanks mate. - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
I don't think it's a sin to fall short of the mark, if so my Spanish is one great big sin.. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
:) - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2013
I agree with annie...if we sin everytime we fall short in our endeavours, a lot of us are in trouble. - 0095ca4c, Aug 26, 2013
Annierats, this has nothing to do with Spanish, really. - SaigeSmith, Sep 1, 2013
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Sin is sin, one sin isn't worse than another, it all hurts. El pecado es el pecado, un pecado no es peor que el otro todos duelen.

updated Aug 27, 2013
edited by pmikan-pam
posted by pmikan-pam
Maybe "todos duelen" meaning all sins hurt. - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
Thank you atxeko, I agree. - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
:) - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
I used the quote as it was written , but if i had a choice I would never use the word "sin" it is a heavily weighted word which has caused dreadful pain and suffering. - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
I think that one of the wisest quotes was " Let he that is free from sin cast the first stone". - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
I was arrested as a kid for throwing stones at street lights - but I did not throw the first one :) - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2013
G'day mate, how are you? I totally agree with you, you are a very wise man! :-) - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
Gracias Ian, how are you? - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
Very insightful amiga. - 0095ca4c, Aug 26, 2013
Gracias amiga, nice of you to say so, did you have a nice weekend. - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
I shouldn't do this here - but among adults I will - I think the concept of "original" sin is a grotesque idea - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2013
Where else, amigo, I think Ray should do his next translation excercise on this deep subject. - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
I don't know Ian , most of my sinning has been very original. - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
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From my quotes book

Indifference may not wreck a man's life at any one turn, but it will destroy him with a kind of dry-rot in the long run.

Bliss Carman

La indiferencia no puede destruir la vida de un hombre en una sola vez, sino que lo destruirá con una especie de putrefacción seca en el largo plazo.

updated Aug 26, 2013
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
That is new to me mate , I love it . - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
Wow, that's deep. - SaigeSmith, Aug 26, 2013
Wow!. That's deep.. and evil. - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
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No estoy de acuerdo. Para mi los péores pecados son los que son contra niños, secuestro y abuso sexual.

I don't agree. For me the worst sins are those that are against children, kidnapping and sexual abuse.

updated Aug 27, 2013
edited by gringojrf
posted by gringojrf
It's a debate that depends on what is closest to your heart I think. It's a crass saying, but "Whatever floats your boat." - 0095ca4c, Aug 26, 2013
Estoy de acuaerdo. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
"secuestro". Of course, I don`t know if they are the worst, but they 'touch' us because children lack of malice. They do not deserve it at all. (I am not saying that others do deserve) - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
Very bad indeed, crimes against our poor innocent childred. - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
Their lack of ability to defend themselves makes them more vulnerable and more deserving of our protection. - gringojrf, Aug 26, 2013
I totally agree with you gringo - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
@ gringojrf, Yes mate , but, it has been the indifference of A L L authorities that allowed this obscenity to be perpetrated and go unchallenged for so long , we were never listened to , the truth was hidden . The collective indifference was appalling . - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
Gringo, forgive me if I allowed the temperature to rise somewhat , but we are going through a "Royal Commission " here into the abuse in the Church , and what is coming out is an obscene act of active indifference by the church and the police . - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
Maybe I should say no more , this is not the venue to vent ones spleen . I am sorry mate. - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
No problem. We all need a good rant every now and again. Here in the US I would say the problem is not indifference but an overly liberal society .... - gringojrf, Aug 27, 2013
OK, I have said it and I feel better for it , not often that I"go off " , but then we all have our Achilles heel. - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
...that makes it difficult to prosecute and convict offenders. And when they ae convicted the sentences are too light to serve as a deterent to others. - gringojrf, Aug 27, 2013
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Estoy de acuerdo con Gringo, hay muchas cosas peores que la indiferencia, por ejemplo el abuso sexual de niños pero la indeferencia de las madres que fingen que no saben nada sobre esta cosa es algo terible, también.

I agree with Gringo that there are many things that are worse than indifference, for example sexual abuse of children. However, the indifference of the mothers who pretend not to know anything about this, is something awful too.

updated Aug 27, 2013
posted by annierats
yes, I heard a radio programme aboutmothers, who knew, really, but couldn't bear to face it.And , in a way, I do understand that too. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
It is sad to think about, hola amiga - pmikan-pam, Aug 26, 2013
A few weeks ago a ring of about 200 criminals were arrested for kidnapping children to use for child prostitution. Dispicable. - gringojrf, Aug 26, 2013
We've had similar troubles here, Gringo, I'm sorry to say. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
But mostly, here, it's in the family andkept quiet. Mothers that sufferd abuse don't speak up if their daughters suffer abuse.. - annierats, Aug 26, 2013
I agree that that is indeed wrong! - gringojrf, Aug 26, 2013
The plight of the mothers and wives has to be taken into account , but I agree that it is abysmal that we humans allow such suffering and do nothing , that is the worst crime , and it is a "crime" not a sin but a crime. - ray76, Aug 27, 2013
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El peor pecado es traicionar a un amigo

The worst sin is to betray a friend

updated Aug 26, 2013
edited by gohern
posted by gohern
"traicionar" - 003492fc, Aug 26, 2013
Yes , or a family member , "mateship"is always paramount. - ray76, Aug 26, 2013
One of the worst anyway...I think taking another life might top it. - 0095ca4c, Aug 26, 2013