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Travesuras para un Domingo. (Translated ) Need some help with it.

Travesuras para un Domingo. (Translated ) Need some help with it.

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First of all I want to thank Eugenio Costa for getting me started in this. El es cupable!

See his post.

The phrases he used pointed me to a poem by Francisco Quevedo,written in the 17th century and is full of elegant humorous wordplay in old Spanish.

[enter link description here][1]http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/251148/un-quevedesco-algunas-correcciones-y-crticas-por-favor

Here it is in the original;

A una nariz

Érase un hombre a una nariz pegado,

érase una nariz superlativa,

érase una nariz sayón y escriba,

érase un peje espada muy barbado.

Era un reloj de sol mal encarado,

érase una alquitara pensativa,

érase un elefante boca arriba,

era Ovidio Nasón más narizado.

Érase un espolón de una galera,

érase una pirámide de Egipto,

las doce Tribus de narices era.

Érase un naricísimo infinito,

muchísimo nariz, nariz tan fiera

que en la cara de Anás fuera delito.

Read this and see what you can understand of it, natives will also find some difficulty here.No need to translate, just to read and know.I could answer some questions as to some of the references in the poem if you wish me to.

I have to say that as a learner,I can understand it and the references in it -but to translate it and keep the character would be the work of a master in language.

Thanks Eugenio- keep them coming

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updated Nov 22, 2014
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
Lol, Lazarus. - rac1, Jul 7, 2013

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Paco, here is the link, I hope.

http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/251148/un-quevedesco-algunas-correcciones-y-crticas-por-favor

Ok, I'll start. This poem is written to a nose? So the first word is érase is that "once upon a time" and apparently a man has a awesome nose?

updated Nov 17, 2014
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
Thanks Sandy-I forgot how to do it. - pacofinkler, Jul 9, 2013
¡Muchas gracias, Paco! - sanlee, Aug 25, 2013
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Here is my translation-- I need some help with the "color" and "humor" of it.

upon a man stuck a nose,

was a superlative nose,

once upon a nose executioner and scribe, ( inquisition)

once upon a swordfish very bearded

Upon a sundial with an awful face

Once upon still, a thoughtful one, ( liquor still)

once upon an elephant on his back,

had more nose than Ovidius Naso. ( roman poet)

upon a spur of a galley,

once upon a pyramid of Egypt,

the twelve tribes of noses was.

upon one a great nose infinite,

too much nose, a nose so fierce,

that in the court of Anás

it was a crime.

updated Nov 23, 2014
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
Wow, Paco, That's a mouthful. - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
Hi Sandy- keeping the "color" in poetry is the hardest- i could use some help here jejeje - pacofinkler, Nov 16, 2014
Wow, I will give it a try when I have some free time - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
Ok, I will start small, There are a lot of things I don't understand in it. - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
I would suggest that people not look at your translation first and try it on their own. Don't be afraid to make a mistake. Just look at my attempt. - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
Ok, Paco says to look at the translation. - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Ok, Paco, I tried again. - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
It is just to difficult if you do not - pacofinkler, Nov 17, 2014
Ok, what do you think now? - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Ok, I see your answer. I will do 4 or so lines per post if it is OK. - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Now you have it just clean it up and improve on mine - pacofinkler, Nov 17, 2014
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A una nariz

Érase un hombre a una nariz pegado, Paco, I now I am way off, but I will try the first four lines, Please correct my mistakes. Thanks. érase una nariz superlativa,

érase una nariz sayón y escriba,

érase un peje espada muy barbado.

Era un reloj de sol mal encarado,

To a nose

Once upon a man was a man a nose glued on

Once upon a superlative nose

Once upon an executioner and scribe,

Once upon a very bearded swordfish

There was a bad sundial in charge.

updated Nov 17, 2014
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
Jajjajajaj, This is a very free translation, Paco. I do need help. - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
Let me add that I obviously did not look at your translation. - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
Sandy , Do look at my translation- this is a real "oso" - pacofinkler, Nov 16, 2014
Ok, voy a tratar de nuevo - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Ok, Paco how about that? - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Much better Sandy - pacofinkler, Nov 17, 2014
Thanks, Paco! - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Ok, I will do four lines in every post, How about that is it OK? - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
You have the basis 'now make it better than mine - pacofinkler, Nov 17, 2014
Ok, this will be a long project, Paco - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
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Hi Sandy and all. The more you read this the better it gets. It does take some hours of research to discover all the noses being referred to, and more than a few of the words have been out of use for a very long time. But if your up to it have a go, at the end of your work you will find it most enjoyable. I can help a little with questions about the various noses and some of the old words.

updated Nov 22, 2014
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
Ok, I am going to translate this. I hope others will too. - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
Give me a few days or weeks for this one, Paco. - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
This is taking longer than I thought, Paco. Sorry. - sanlee, Nov 22, 2014