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Use of "llamar a" when "llamar" will do

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Is it just a "whatever one feels like doing" situation when it comes to choosing between "llamar a" and "llamar"?

Background: It is my understanding that llamar never needs to be followed by "a" (unless of course it is a situation requiring a "personal a"). Yet, I keep seeing examples of "llamar a" being used when only "llamar" will do. For instance:

  1. "¡LLama a la estación de bomberos!" (from a Spanish lesson on my software program)
  2. "llamar (a) un taxi" (from SpanishDict......here expressing that the "a" is optional)

So, what´s the deal with "a" after "llamar"? Should I just do whatever I want? Is that what everyone else does? Or, is it better to be consistent and choose to use either "llamar" or "llamar a"?

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updated Dec 18, 2015
edited by Trieltor
posted by Trieltor
Your question just saved me, Trieltor, and so are the answers that follow. Thank you! I've just posted a question on this very same matter but I guess mine was premised poorly so I just sort of got lost in the translation. Can't thank you enough for - tesss, Dec 18, 2015
posting this question! lol - tesss, Dec 18, 2015

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When llamar means 'to call' it is transitive and requires an object - and in this case the direct object will be introduced by 'a'.

Hence ....

Llama a la estacíon de bomberos.

But there is a bit of a grey area here because llamar when it means 'to telephone' (also to knock, ring etc) is intransitive that doesn't have direct object and therefore no 'a' is needed.

Hence ...

llama un taxi or llama a un taxi are both acceptable

updated Jun 11, 2013
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
"When llamar means 'to call' it is transitive and requires an object - a direct object in Spanish will be introduced by 'a'." I´m just a beginner, but I don´t think all direct objects in Spanish must be preceded by "a"? - Trieltor, Jun 8, 2013
You're quite right, I did make that sound like a broad statement, I've hopefully made it clearer now. As you say not all direct objects are introduced by an a - many give the name 'personal a' to the a that introduces a known person or to personalize an - Kiwi-Girl, Jun 8, 2013
animal, country etc that has personal meaning to someone, eg. a pet when they serve as the direct object of a sentence. But when the person is unknown or an object etc the a is not usually needed. - Kiwi-Girl, Jun 8, 2013
I'll ask around and do a bit more research to see if I can find anything else out that may help. :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jun 8, 2013
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Basically, when we summon or make an appointment using llamar the a is used, so technically in your examples the a should be used. Of course if the senario is to call the fire station just to chat with someone there, then the a is not used.

updated Feb 6, 2014
posted by 005faa61
I see. So if I say "summon" to myself and it still sounds okay, then I can´t go wrong with "llamar a". Thanks. - Trieltor, Jun 8, 2013
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Ok, I finally found this thread again, and I found you an answer.

As is often the case it's quite simple really.

Llamar can mean 'to call' someone or something a name etc or 'to call' someone or something as in to contact them.

To avoid ambiguity you use the 'a'.

Llamo un taxi. I'm calling a taxi.

Ok then, what are you going to call it?

No, llamo a un taxi.

Oh you're calling a taxi, to pick you up or something, right, I get it.

That answer is thanks to Lazarus, for those who remember him when he used to help out on this site, gracias maestro!

updated Dec 18, 2015
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Thank you for coming back to this. It makes sense and it doesn´t. Just goes to show how comfortable a person is in their native language. I would never misinterpret "I´m calling a taxi" but I also see your point how it could be misinterpreted. - Trieltor, Jun 10, 2013
I hear ya, and especially when Rae classes llamar as intransitive when it means to telephone but at least we have a grammarian's take on it - Kiwi-Girl, Jun 10, 2013
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Kiwi:

Correct, although I think the "a" should be placed there and it is the only proper way to say it, the other option has become accepted simply because people in the long run got confused when people say such thing as "llama a un taxi" that gets shortened to "llama un taxi" cause of talking too fast..

Hear that for a couple of decades or even centuries, granted that taxis as such didn't exist centuries ago, and you are bound to find a mess with the language, any language.

updated Jun 11, 2013
edited by chileno
posted by chileno
quite right Chileno but I just had to know whhhhhyyyyy? ;) - Kiwi-Girl, Jun 10, 2013
Of course, and L gave an excellent dissertation about it. ;) - chileno, Jun 11, 2013
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Llamar a mi un taxi.- call a taxi for me .

Llamar mi un taxi , Ok tu eres un taxi . - call me a taxi , Ok you are a taxi.

Am I getting warm Kiwi aye?

updated Dec 18, 2015
posted by ray76
So glad I found this discussion; to 'a' or not to 'a' has been my dilemma for months! Two example sentences from you and my puzzle's been solved. It's just suddenly so clear to me now, and I think I now (completel) understand it. Thank you so much, Ray!!! - tesss, Dec 18, 2015
You are welcome Tess , thats what we are here for , to help you learn , we also learn ourselves of course. - ray76, Dec 18, 2015
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thank you for coming back to this. It makes sense and it doesn´t. Just goes to show how comfortable a person is in their native language. I would never misinterpret "I´m calling a taxi" but I also see your point how it could be misinterpreted. - Trieltor 1

Ok I think the confusion has arisen because call can mean so many different things.

But probably call a taxi falls into this transitive use of llamar

Rae - llamar - 1. tr. Dar voces a alguien o hacer ademanes para que venga o para advertirle algo.

although .... just to confuse the issue jeje ..... to name something is also transitive

  1. tr. Designar con una palabra; aplicar una denominación, título o calificativo. Aquí llamamos falda a lo que en Argentina llaman pollera. Desde aquel día llamaron don Luis a Luisito. Todos la llamaban orgullosa.
updated Jun 11, 2013
posted by Kiwi-Girl
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Ignoring the personal "a" this again may be the survival of the old Latin "ad" with direction or purpose--in some instances at least.

There is a similar construction in English:

"Did you call to him before he jumped off the cliff?"

"Did you call him before he jumped off the cliff?"

updated Jun 10, 2013
edited by EugenioCosta
posted by EugenioCosta
thanks :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jun 10, 2013