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why does estor and ser has the same meaning?

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updated Jun 4, 2013
posted by Yondaime
Spanish :) - ian-hill, Jun 4, 2013

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They actually don't have the same meaning at all; they are completely separate words in Spanish. English actually just groups their many functions together into one word. It is the same way with our words "make" and "do" and the Spanish "hacer". "Make" and "do" don't have the same meaning just because Spanish only has one word that it uses for both functions. And when you stop to think about it, "be" doesn't just mean one thing in English, either...

updated Jun 4, 2013
posted by PumpkinCalabaza
Tiene razón. Latín: esse = ser, stare = estar. - EugenioCosta, Jun 4, 2013
I used your analogy before I read your post - diagonx, Jun 4, 2013
Diagonx: Los sabios siempre pensamos igual :) - PumpkinCalabaza, Jun 4, 2013
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Eso sería como si yo dijera que do y make son lo mismo porque significan hacer

updated Jun 4, 2013
posted by diagonx
Ni siquiera mencionar "to make do". - EugenioCosta, Jun 4, 2013
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It's not really the "same" meaning, they aren't interchangeable (even though in most cases you can use the "wrong" verb and still get away with it). The fact that English has only one verb to express all these things and so overlooks the fine nuances so nicely highlighted in Spanish doesn't mean they don't exist.

updated Jun 4, 2013
posted by Manity
Another hilarity is that outside a very small group, including, say, those with some logic or philosophy, or a second language, the vast majority of English-speakers have no idea what their own "is" is. - EugenioCosta, Jun 4, 2013
After Clinton, for example, and his "depends on what 'is' is", establishing he, as most lawyers and politicians, had no idea. - EugenioCosta, Jun 4, 2013
Sic transit capitalismus. - EugenioCosta, Jun 4, 2013
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I think you mean estAr. While they both mean "to be" they are part of the overall attempt by the Spanish speaking community to confuse the hell out of the rest of us who are trying so hard to learn. It is basically based on conditions. Ser is like something that is unchangeable, your name, your sex, where you were born, etc. whereas estar is used to describe how you are at the moment or where you went or things that constantly change condition. ejemplo: ¿Cómo estás usted? How are you?( temporary condition)vs ¿Cómo eres usted? What are you like? (your description) This is by no means a complete definition of the diferences as there are so many ways to explain it and I have yet to understand it all much less remember the usage myself.

updated Jun 4, 2013
edited by Mainer
posted by Mainer
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En el idioma de los Han hay "you" y "shi", y esas son justo el principio.

updated Jun 4, 2013
posted by EugenioCosta
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check the reference!

updated Jun 4, 2013
posted by Yondaime
It is an issue eternally determined in the Fourth Fire Age. - EugenioCosta, Jun 4, 2013