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Hola a todas!

I feel that I need to get my concerns on spanish adjective across. You may be able to help me.

I am curious why is that according to the book I have read that spanish adjectives are written after the noun that is being modified.Just like the examples below.However, sometimes they are written before the noun which is how English is written. I wonder, Is there any particular rule when to put the adjective before the noun or after or it does not matter where?

Examples of Adjectives before the Noun

La pura agua (pure water)

La insoportable hambre (the unbearable hunger)

La feliz ama de casa (the happy housewife)

La gran águila (the great eagle)

Examples of Adjectives after the Noun

La casa pequeña

Lla verdura deliciosa

El carro rojo

I hope someone can give light to this. Thank you in advancesmile

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updated May 30, 2013
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posted by Michael_88
good question! I have been figuring out this issue also. - chellapadua, May 29, 2013

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Yes, adjectives are usually written after the noun they modify and they should match in gender and number. Example:

La chica bonita.

Los estudiantes aplicados.

La juventud desenfrenada.

El escritor elocuente.

However, placing the adjective before the noun it modifies gives it a different nuance (makes it more emphatic, or refined or even catchier to the eyes of the reader). It almost elevates the value of the adjective being used.

La hermosa chica.

Los excelentes estudiantes.

La eterna juventud.

La elocuente escritora.

I hope this helps!

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Todos ustedes han sido muy serviciales con todos estos. Gracias Francobollo. - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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This inconsistent adjective placement can be tricky.

It has been my observation that one sees the adjectives placed before the nouns more often is pat-phrases (frases hechas) and titles, and specially so in translated titles.

To Franco and Eugenio´s comments, I¨ll add that there are certain adjectives that one simply sees in front more often, and early on, you´ll do well to emulate those, and leave the adjective until after otherwise. The total number of adjectives that often appear in front doesn´t seem great, but the ones that do, appear pretty frequently. In fact, some of the very first phrases we tend to learn in Spanish are examples thereof.

Buenos días, Buenas tardes, Buenas noches.

Muchas gracias

Que tenga un buen día

Es una gran ciudad, Es un gran hombre.

They are often placed before the noun when they are describing an intrinsic important characteristic on the noun. This is probably related to Franco´s comment on emphasis.

Have you looked at the adjective placement article here on Spanishdict.com? I think it´s pretty helpful too, as it also covers some common limiting adjectives (suficiente, muchos, pocas etc) and more examples of those that change meaning before vs after. Good and recommended reading.

But in general, if you haven´t seen an example of a given adjective being used before, you´ll generally be right leaving it until after. You can modify that practice as you learn more.

Hope that helps,

Roger

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That's a great lesson btw. - katydew, May 29, 2013
Todos ustedes han sido muy serviciales con todos estos. Gracias Roger. I will keep myself familiarized with these adjectives and how they appear in a sentence. If not,then, I will just follow the normal sentence pattern. This has surely helped. - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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Just wanted to add:

"Limiting adjectives" always come before nouns, e.g. "Diez carros, muchos libros, pocos estudiantes."

Some adjectives change meaning/nuance depending on their position, like "Mi viejo amigo (My old, as in former, friend), vs. "Mi amigo viejo (my old (age) friend." "Mi nueva bicicleta (my new bike, as in new to me, not brand new), vs. "Mi bicicleta nueva," (My (brand) new bike).

updated May 30, 2013
posted by Jota8326
Todos ustedes han sido muy serviciales con todos estos. Gracias Jay8326. - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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I had the same problem and made this flashcard set if you're a flashcard lover:

Meaning changing adjectives flashcards

updated May 30, 2013
posted by katydew
Muchas gracias. - EugenioCosta, May 29, 2013
Aja. i Excelente! - chellapadua, May 29, 2013
Se necesita verificar el género de unas palabras de las tarjetas de Flash--por ejemplo, agua pura. - EugenioCosta, May 29, 2013
Y "cierta ley" también. - EugenioCosta, May 29, 2013
Thanks for the input. I like my flashcards to be perfect so it's appreciated. - katydew, May 29, 2013
Thsoe 2 are fixed now. Anybody see any other mistakes? - katydew, May 29, 2013
De nada--no hay de que agradecer. Son tarjetas muy útiles. - EugenioCosta, May 29, 2013
I would definitely look into these effort-filled flashcards you made on this subject. Gracias por tu ayuda - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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"This is the forest primeval. The murmuring pines and the hemlocks,

Bearded with moss, and in garments green, indistinct in the twilight..."

HWL

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;) - rogspax, May 29, 2013
Thanks anyway. - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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verdes trajes/garments green

updated May 30, 2013
posted by EugenioCosta
Esta configuración de Casasús no es sin querer.... - EugenioCosta, May 29, 2013
Joaquín Diego Casasús (1858-1916)--muy sutil. - EugenioCosta, May 29, 2013
Gracias. - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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Esta es la selva de la edad primera.

Los pinos y los cedros rumorosos

Con heno ornados y con verdes trajes

A la hora del crepúsculo, indistintos...

Casasús

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Gracias. - Michael_88, May 30, 2013
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El viejo amigo =/= el amigo viejo.

updated May 29, 2013
posted by EugenioCosta
These are tricky for we newbs. Care to elaborate on this one? Thanks! - rogspax, May 29, 2013
El viejo amigo - A long standing friend, ie, not old in age. El amigo viejo - An old friend, ie, he is old. - Eddy, May 29, 2013
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Also in English in some marginal cases:

"He was very glad to see an old friend doing so well." (ambiguous)

"He was very glad to see a friend old and gray doing so well"

updated May 29, 2013
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Interestingly enough, an English-speaking Dostovevsky might well be able to get something intriguing out of it:

"During those long days in the sub-sub-department, I felt I had to get my concerns about adjectives across. They were invading my cubicle in reams and, once installed, were reproducing, like coat hangers in the closet. I took out a blank sheet of ancient, brittle foolscap. On it I traced out a word in charcoal--ENHANCED. That is where it all began to go belly up: ENHANCED. When my supervisor came in, I crumpled the foolscap and stuffed it in my mouth, pretending to chew gum"

updated May 29, 2013
posted by EugenioCosta
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"I feel that I need to get my concerns on spanish adjective across"

This is a very curious and clumsy phrasing in English, even if "adjective" is made plural--not a native speaker?

updated May 29, 2013
edited by EugenioCosta
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