after having seen ?

Question

Hola

Im trying to figure out how to say "after having seen", as in, "after having seen the band live, I like them even more" but haven't had that type of grammar yet, tense wise.

I can only get as close as;

Ya me gustaron mis discos de grupo, pero después de verlo en vivo, ahora aún más.

Thanks for any corrections.

Is it "Ya me gustaba" or "Ya me gustaron"? - HackerKing, Mar 17, 2013

Probably the latter. Good catch. Thanks. I was so busy concentrating on the part I didn´t know, that I even got the part I should have known wrong. The perils of being a beginner. - rogspax, Mar 17, 2013

Answer 1

Rogspax, I think it’s “Después de haber visto . . .”

Because here, having is not acting as a present participle, but a gerund.

As you know, gerunds in English are the –ing forms used as nouns; but in Spanish, they’re the infinitives.

I know that “having seen . . .” would be “haber visto . . .”

But it’s a little more difficult right after the word after.

By the way, linguee.com can help with this sort of stuff.

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Interestingly enough, you’re kind of getting at the same thing with your

“Después de verlo en vivo . . .”

I would read this as:

“After seeing it live . . .”

Here, seeing = ver (the infinitive).

In the other context, seen = visto (the past participle).

Great question!

—Brian

Good analysis. - -cae-, Mar 16, 2013

Thank you, -cae-. - brian5764, Mar 16, 2013

Thanks very much Brian. I need to eeview all that Sun or Mon when my brain isnt wiped after a 4 day music fest, but it sounds good - rogspax, Mar 17, 2013

Oh yes, and Linguee is becoming my best friend. I didn´t use it here because I wanted to understand more, and because it´s pretty tight on a small mobile screen. On my actual PC, it opens in a tab automatically when I open a browser. Awesome tool. - rogspax, Mar 17, 2013

Cool. Yeah, Linguee can be very helpful at times! - brian5764, Mar 17, 2013

I¨m starting to realize I don´t really understand the grammar behind ´having´ in the ¨having seen¨ construct in English, which doesn´t help. Must think about this more. This one is slow to sink in for me. Thanks in any event! - rogspax, Mar 19, 2013

Answer 2

Brian is right, "Después de haber visto a la banda/grupo en directo, me gusta aún más"

Thank you, evika133, for verifying! - brian5764, Mar 16, 2013

yes. thank you very much. - rogspax, Mar 17, 2013

I agree, for what it's worth. - annierats, Mar 20, 2013

o viva/vivo. - annierats, Mar 20, 2013

Answer 3

I’m starting to realize I don’t really understand the grammar behind “having” in the “having seen” construct in English, which doesn’t help. Must think about this more. This one is slow to sink in for me. Thanks in any event!

Yeah, I know what you mean. It is sort of like feeling that you’re on a plateau. Maybe go back down a notch?

I don’t know. Maybe these will help you at some point:

Look for “In contrast, the Spanish gerundio (-ndo form) cannot be used as a noun” in:

Spanish-Grammar-Study-Gerunds-Vs-Gerundios

And, here on SD, look for “When NOT to use the present participle”:

Other Uses for the Present Participle (Gerundio)