using form of the word - "juntos"

Question

¿Is my sentence correct?

"Las hermanas celebran juntas."

All 3 translators used "juntos" and I don't understand why the word doesn't need to agree with the feminine noun....?

¡Gracias!

Answer 1

yes, you're sentence is correct. hermanas(sister's) feminine. Never trust completely in the translator

Answer 2

Your sentence is correct because there are only sisters. If it were brothers and sisters together, then "juntos" would be used.

Answer 3

One other possibility - this could be a predicate adjective. I haven't found anything definitive on it, but it seems to fit he bill. I have to admit to continued confusion, but maybe this is an explanation.

You may be right there. I still need to understand Why it's not an adverb, and maybe that's it. - rogspax, Jan 17, 2013

Answer 4

OK, I have another take on this, and am going to put it forth, not because I think the translators are always right (I definitely don't think that) or because I actually believe I'm right while a fluent person is wrong, but because if I don't understand where the fluent person is coming from, then I want to explain where I'm coming from, so they can correct me. So, here it is, and please help me.

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I thought juntos was correct, because it is an adverb here, not an adjective, specifically, an adverb of manner describing how they play. i.e. they play together. And adverbs are invariate for gender, right???

Yes, junto/a can be an adjective, and it would have to correspond with gender and number, but that's not the case here.

Of course, I may understand that wrong in Spanish. Some adverbs are invariate, and others not, so this is where my thinking may very well need straightening out.

The girls are together. Las chicas son juntas. . The girls play together. Las chicas juegan juntos.

OK, help me out here please.

I anxiously awaiting someone fixing my very probably flawed understanding. The lesson should then at least stick in my head.

I can see why you say that, but "juntas" is an adjective, unlike together. - cogumela, Jan 17, 2013

On the other hand, if it were an adverb, which it is not, it would be invariable in number too. - cogumela, Jan 17, 2013

Thanks. Good point on having to be invariable in number too. That will help me remember in the future. - rogspax, Jan 17, 2013

Accepting fully that juntas is the correct adjective, I still don't understand why, functionally, it shouldn't be an adverb since together would seem to modify the verb play. Maybe gohern is right about predicate adjective. - rogspax, Jan 17, 2013

Answer 5

The girls are together. Las chicas son juntas.

Las chicas están juntas.

The girls play together. Las chicas juegan juntos

Las chicas juegan juntamente (adverb).

We can use "junto" as an adverb like this: Las chicas jugaban, corrían y gritaban todo junto. (everything they did was done at the same time) This is the same as saying "..... a la vez"

OK, it's going to take a bit to absorb, but for now, thanks! - rogspax, Jan 17, 2013

Answer 6

Your sentence is incomplete, because it lacks the DO. We need something to celebrate (celebrar is transitive). Other than that, "juntas" is correct, junto/a/os/as is an adjective, not an adverb.

Las chicas juegan juntamente makes no sense in Spanish.

Answer 7

The answer may be that it depends what we are trying to say. If we are trying to say Together the girls are clelebrating..." Las hermanas juntas celebran ", juntas is an adjective. If we are trying to say The girls are celebrating together...Las hermanas celebran junto, junto is an adverb.

This is just my guess!

Answer 8

Just another probably flawed idea - from what I have seen, "junto", when used as an adverb, doesn't use the plural. It seems to me that it should be "Las hermanas celebran junto" if this is an adverb. Since it is plural, I would think it refers to the sisters, and would be "juntas".

Hopefully more feedback is on the way.

You may be right. It just seems that junto- modifies the verb, which would make it an adverb, no? But not being an adverb in plural points to adjective. This is the conflicting-signal problem I¨m struggling with. - rogspax, Jan 17, 2013