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¿Están permitido traer perros? -- Are dogs allowed?

¿Están permitido traer perros? -- Are dogs allowed?

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Context: I'm looking for an apartment to rent and I ask the manager if I'm allowed to bring my dogs. (Context doesn't need to be translated.)

¿Están permitido traer perros? -- Are dogs allowed?

Since I'm asking about more than one dog, I want to use "están"?

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updated Jul 22, 2012
posted by bandit51jd

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Bandit, something passive will work fine, like....

¿Se permiten los perros?

updated Jul 22, 2012
posted by MattM
Gracias, Matt! - bandit51jd, Jul 20, 2012
I agree, Matt! - Noetol, Jul 20, 2012
Perfecto! - --Mariana--, Jul 21, 2012
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Yes, this is what I'm asking. Are dogs the subject and ¨están¨ is used.

You are indicating dogs is not the subject but rather ¨you, the manager¨ is the subject that was established in the context of the conversation. So ¨estᨠis used.

¿Está permitido traer perros? -- Are dogs allowed?

Silvia´s answer is correct, but the subject is not "you, the manager." The subject is the infinitive "traer" or "tener" as she mentioned.

Infinitives can be subjects in Spanish and when they are, they are masculine and it doesn´t matter if the sentence is active or passive voice. The subject remains the same, ie: Está permitido tener perros / Tener perros está permitido or in passive voice Se permite tener perros / Tener perros se permite. (Sorry, I forgot the passive earlier).

You will also ocassionally see the article "el" used when an infinitive is a subject (El tener perros ....), but this is usually only in formal writing when the subject starts the sentence.

updated Jul 22, 2012
edited by 005faa61
posted by 005faa61
Juian, on ads for hotels and holiday flats in Spain I've seen ' se admiten/permiten ..' lots of times. - annierats, Jul 21, 2012
Annie, you are absolutely right and this way is the most common. The answer above focuses more on the sentence structure of the original question using the extra verbs that are normally not used for this situation - 005faa61, Jul 21, 2012
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¿Se admiten mascotas?

From advert:Hoteles aceptan mascotas Madrid > 96 Hoteles en Madrid admiten perros. HotelesPerros es un buscador de hoteles que admiten perros y animales de compañia ...

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La foto es de un motel en Brazil donde los perros están tan bienvenidos que hay un gymnasio solo para ellos..

updated Jul 21, 2012
edited by annierats
posted by annierats
Since the context is specific to dogs, I'd stay with "perros" rather than pets in general. "Se admiten" is good, though. - bandit51jd, Jul 20, 2012
You can obviously say 'gatos, 'perros', 'loros '. It is a standard phrse however, often seen in adverts. - annierats, Jul 21, 2012
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Because I am physically bringing the dogs into the apartment, traer is used.

Be aware, amiga, that the verb "traer" is very tricky in Spanish and only used in certain circumstances. I still have a hard time understanding why "llevar" is used much more often than "traer," but it is. In English it would be perfectly fine to say "I'm bringing food to the party" but in Spanish it would be "llevar" and not "traer."

For this particular situation I'd use the impersonal passive voice as Matt says: ¿Se permiten los perros?

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updated Jul 21, 2012
edited by --Mariana--
posted by --Mariana--
Yes, I would to. Admiten or permiten, in the passive are what's used , standard phrase. Obviously other options can be used too, as Julián says. - annierats, Jul 21, 2012
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@ silvia61

Yes, this is what I'm asking. Are dogs the subject and ¨están¨ is used.

You are indicating dogs is not the subject but rather ¨you, the manager¨ is the subject that was established in the context of the conversation. So ¨estᨠis used.

¿Está permitido traer perros? -- Are dogs allowed?

updated Jul 20, 2012
posted by bandit51jd
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Context: I'm looking for an apartment to rent and I ask the manager if I'm allowed to bring my dogs.

So a correct question is:

¿Está permitido traer perros? -- Are dogs allowed?

Because I am physically bringing the dogs into the apartment, traer is used.

updated Jul 20, 2012
posted by bandit51jd
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no se admiten perros

updated Jul 20, 2012
posted by asad906r
Please remember proper punctuation. And it would be "los perros", because I'm speaking about specific dogs. - bandit51jd, Jul 20, 2012
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HI No, los perros is not the subject the subject will it does mean you should say Esta permitido traer perros? O Esta permitido tener perros?

updated Jul 20, 2012
posted by silvia61