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The Problem With The European Union. (Cultural Theme)

The Problem With The European Union. (Cultural Theme)

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For anybody who doesn’t fully understand the Euro situation , it is explained in the picture below and elaborated in the text following it.

Si haya alguien que no entiende completamente la situación del euro, la siguiente imagen abajo se lo explica y se desarrolla en el texto más abajo.

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Pythagoras' theorem - 24 words.

Lord's Prayer - 66 words.

Archimedes Principle - 67 words.

10 Commandments - 179 words.

Gettysburg address - 286 words.

US Declaration of Independence - 1,300 words.

US Constitution with all 27 Amendments - 7,818 words.

EU regulations on the sale of cabbage - 26,911 words

La teoría de Pitágoras - 24 palabras

La oración del Señor - 66 palabras

El principio de Archímedes - 67 palabras

Los diez mandamientos - 179 palabras

El discurso de Gettysburg - 286 palabras

La declaración de la independencia del EEUU - 1,330 palabras

La constitución del EEUU que incluye las 27 enmiendas - 7,818 palabras

Las reglas de la Europa que se determinan la venta del repollo - 26,911 palabras

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updated Jul 29, 2012
edited by Eddy
posted by Eddy
Spot on, Eddy. Vote of the month, if not the year. - annierats, Jun 18, 2012
Thanks Annie - Eddy, Jun 18, 2012
¡ El orden cagando ! Fantastic Eddy , in the Hen house the top Hen always takes the top perch , for this very reason. - ray76, Jun 18, 2012
That's the truth Eddy. Got my vote. =] - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
Well, this whole topic is a bummer... they've taken something believed to be an American-only pass times away, Bailouts. Now we'll just have to bask in endless "I sue you and you sue me"s & automobile recalls. - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
That's a joke... I'm not serious for those who need that sort of clarification. jajaja - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
You made my day. Usted hizo mi día. - miliard, Jun 18, 2012

9 Answers

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Die Wende, followed by the German reunification in 1990 and the emergency merger of the economies of both Germanies have cost the West German tax-payer quite a lot of money. A price West Germany had to pay for absorbing East Germany. But the differences have not disappeared, and there still are 'Ossies' and 'Wessies' who sometimes bear some kind of grudge against the other, the Wessies because of the large subsidies that are still transferred from west to east whereas at the same time some regions in the West, such als the Ruhr district, are also in need of more help. Since the unification and up to very recently the eastern German economy has been struggling to survive, young people had to leave looking for jobs elsewhere and people are disappointed because they feel, rightly ot wrongly, that they are treated as second rate citizens. Unemployment has dropped in the last five years, but the minimum wages have been abolished too, and too many people are working for less than 5 € per hour. The 'economic miracle' is partly due to the increasing number of working poor, and you can hardly blame these people for being averse to financial aid for countries that are depicted as lazy good-for-nothings and congenital tax-evaders. And at the same time the very rich are growing richer all over the world, and the rest is coaxed into blaming other people just like them for the problems they are confronted with.

updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by Castor77
Thank you for that insight into German labor. I had no idea they abolished the minimum wage. Now their unempoyment rate of 5-6% becomes a bit more understandable. When was it abolished? - DonCiro, Jun 18, 2012
It was one of the measures taken by the former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder. More info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_2010 - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
Although this goes against what my cartoon what intimating it is nice to receive a view on hehalf of Germany. That's why I think it is the best answer. - Eddy, Jun 19, 2012
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Ten cuidado de griegos dones exigentes .

Is old Macedonian proverb.

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updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by ray76
Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. - JoyceM, Jun 18, 2012
Yes , I interfered with it Joyce. - ray76, Jun 18, 2012
It is ironic , that is a Greek column. - ray76, Jun 19, 2012
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Hmm.... My understanding is that French and German banks own upwards of 40% of Greek debt. So should Greece default or revert to the Drachma (and thus use inflation to shrink its debt) the French and Germans will have quite the amount of "poo" on their faces as well.

The question is not simply about Germany lending money or Germany coming to the rescue of the Greeks. In a sense, the Germans would also be rescuing their own banks from massive losses by providing Greece with emergency financial assistance.

A mi entender los bancos francéses y Alemánes han comprado mas de 40% de la deuda Griega. Así que sí Grecia cae en default o vuelve a instituir la dracma (y por consiguiente utilizar la inflación para disminuir su deuda) los Francéses y Alemánes estarán cubiertos de "caca" también.

Por lo tanto no es solamente una cuestión de Alemán rescatando a Grecia sino también una cuestión de Alemán ayudando a sus propios bancos nacionales para evitar pérdidas masivas.

updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by DonCiro
si alguien se encuentra con ganas de corregir mi español se lo agradecería :) - DonCiro, Jun 18, 2012
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The problem there is that German fiscal policies can't be applied to a myriad of disparate countries, because it is Germany telling the others what or not to do, maybe if they were equals, but that's obviously not the case

updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by diagonx
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We do have our problems at the moment, but we're not the only ones. I don't think there is much occasion for what the Germans call 'Schadenfreude' or gloating over someone else's troubles. Not within Europe nor elsewhere. And we 've seen worse in the previous century and managed to get back on the rails again. And we will overcome the present problems too, provided that we don't panic and refrain from heeding false prophets.

updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by Castor77
Now I like your false prophets comments. If the Euro fails or Britain leaves, it's the end of the world. - Eddy, Jun 18, 2012
So far the end of the world has been predicted many times. By false prophets. ;-) And Britain should make up its mind whether it wants to be part of Europe or apply to become the 51st state of the USA. - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
Jaja, you better be nice to Britain, they could send multiple countries into a third world economy in a flash. They have had an upper hand this whole time because they have always double sided things with their eternally strong British Pound. - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
They don't just deal in Euros, but also do major deals with their currency that is very solidly backed. ;) This being the reason why they could decide to count their losses (even though they do have alot invested in success of Euros) & bid thee farewell. - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
Eternally strong??? You must be kidding. - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
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Sí, pero este problema no es confinado a la zona del euro. Aquí esta el texto del NAFTA. NAFTA Como puede ver, es muy largo también. Creo que México a veces siente como los pájaros más debajo en su dibujo. Qualquier tiempo en que tiene los ricos y los pobres en la misma economía, va a tener lo mismo problema.

Yes, but this problem is not confined to the Euro zone. Here is the text of NAFTA. As to can see, it too is very long. I believe that Mexico at times feels like the birds below in your drawing. Any time you have the rich and the poor in the same economy, you are going to have the same problem.

updated Jun 19, 2012
edited by Noetol
posted by Noetol
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Too many very different people/ cultures dipping in one wannabe alike pot. big surprise The ironic thing is Germany for so long that bottom bird drowning in poo because of the World Wars and getting the blame for it all and they were treated like lepers; Nobody wanted to help them. angry However, the tables have so vastly turned and now they're sitting on top and everyone is asking for a bailout that I don't see coming. tongue laugh However I do feel sorry for a few of the countries... especially Spain. wink

updated Jun 19, 2012
edited by DJ_Huero
posted by DJ_Huero
Nobody wanted to help them? What about the Marshall Plan which didn't leave out Germany at all. In fact it accelerated the recovery of West German manufacturing more quickly than, f.i., the British industry. - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
I thought we were talking about Europe Castor, not the U.S. ;-) - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
I am talking about Europe, Huero. Moreover, we are grateful for the U.S. assistance, even though we realize that it wasn't entirely free from some American selfinterest. ;) - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
I talking about Germany being in trouble, economy = poo (especially after WWI which fueled part of WWII) and nobody in Europe wanted to help them, but yes of course... big brother U.S. geting into everything offered some assistance. - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
Now the irony I'm talking about is, Europe (or atleast many countries there) want help from Germany in this time of need and Germany is saying, "nope". Jeje - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
I don't think that the Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression that blew over to Europe found it's origin in the Treaty of Versailles. - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
No need for Schadenfreude, Huero. Study the implications of Hartz IV, and it becomes immediately clear why the German public is averse to financial support for the Southern European counties. - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
Jeje, Deustchland = fleißiger Arbeiter, the other nations have long and many vacations. Jejeje, ¿verdad? ;-P - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
No. - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
AS far as I know Germans should at least get 4 weeks vacation a year, that's on not far from France's and Italy's 5 weeks, so I doubt it's about time off, also Europeans are consitenlty ranked as more productive per hour worked than Americans or Japanese - diagonx, Jun 18, 2012
Again you go off topic diagnox but also reveal interestin secret. The topic is Europe not the US, and many European countries (i'll find names if you'd like) work a third of the year. But, interesting it's easier for y'all to compare yourself to the U.S. - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
Rather than each other... But to your point we're only alotted two weeks of vacation yearly... I call that focus.. But double our vacation we'll be happy and more productive as well ;) - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
Huero, if you want to talk about Europe, you still have a lot of homework to do. You don't seem to be well-informed, to say the least. :-))) - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
I don't have immediate personal ties to it, no (well some family in Spain), but I strictly rely on statistics, studies, and written research. Anything further has little value to me. ;-) - DJ_Huero, Jun 18, 2012
As we all ought to know, there are lies, **** lies and then there are statistics. :-) - Castor77, Jun 18, 2012
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Interesting point. That blurb about the number of words is very telling. Wow... 26, 911 words about the selling of cabbage only!!!

updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by PumpkinCalabaza
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Words! This says it all. I feel so sorry for Greece, but also Spain and Italy. I really can't believe how they found a common currency a good idea in the first place and why they couldn't predict this.

updated Jun 19, 2012
posted by inridk
There have been a lot of benefits, to be honest..Look at all the money that went into Ireland and Spain.. - annierats, Jun 18, 2012
With the financial crisis which seems to be getting worse and is affecting the entire world,, Europe at least, I can't see much positiveness with the benefits, unfortunately. - inridk, Jun 18, 2012