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Spanish lessons It is about lesson 3:1 about the subjunctive: at 6 minutes and 11 seconds "Estoy enojado que el train llegara tarde." Paralee's translation is "I am angry that the train arrived late." My translation as layman would be I am angry that the train will be late.

My questions are: Where is the subjunctive? I cannot see any form of subjective I am aware of. Why it is translated with past tense instead of future?

Thank you in advance.

Clases de español Se trata de lección 3:1 sobre el subjuntivo: a los 6 minutos y 11 segundos 'Estoy enojado que el tren llegara tarde'. Traducción de Paralee es "Estoy enojado que el tren llegó tarde". Mi traducción como laico sería que estoy enfadado que el tren será tarde.

Mis preguntas son: ¿Dónde está el subjuntivo? No veo ninguna forma de subjetiva que conozco. ¿Por qué se traduce con pasado en lugar de futuro?

Gracias de antemano.

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updated Mar 24, 2013
posted by miliard

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Llegara is different than "llegará"

  • Llegara is the subjunctive
  • Click on the following link for a better explanation of the Subjunctive

  • "Llegara" is a mood (Subjunctive), llegará is the future tense of "llegar"

updated May 22, 2012
edited by farallon7
posted by farallon7
Your answer is good because gives me a link to a site where I can study. Thank you! - miliard, May 21, 2012
very good link! - miliard, May 21, 2012
I'm glad I was able to help you out! - farallon7, May 21, 2012
Thank you. Good answer and awesome link! - PumpkinCalabaza, May 21, 2012
My pleasure! - farallon7, May 22, 2012
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Paralee is correct. You are missing a detail here. The lesson says"Estoy enojado que el tren llegara tarde. "Llegara" is subjunctive and the translation is correct.


You are confused, because you are thinking on "llegará", which is the future tense. The difference is in where the stress is in both verb conjugations.

updated May 21, 2012
posted by 00d312f5
You are right. Now is clearer because you realised what was the reason of my confusion and you gave a good explanation. - miliard, May 21, 2012
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Could you possibly tell me why there is "llegara", not "llegare"? The train is 3rd person singular with -AR ending so it should end with an -e. I'm not native english speaker (I'm Pole) so maybe I've been missing something... I would be grateful if someone can explain it to me smile

updated Mar 24, 2013
posted by aleksandra_pl
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Can anybody answer to RogerHH?

updated Jan 7, 2013
posted by miliard
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I don't think we can use the present, estoy enojaro - and then the past subjunctive.

The two parts of the sentence need to be in the sam tense don't they:-

estaba enojardo que el tran llegara tarde o estoy enojardo que el tran llege tarde.

updated May 21, 2012
posted by Stig345
good point - miliard, May 21, 2012
Im pretty sure you can use the two tenses together because, hes angry now, that it was late before. - jttorbey72, May 21, 2012
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Good question...it mainly depends on when the "anger" occurred and the context. "I am angry that the train was late" (Estoy enojado que el tren llegara tarde). "I was angry that the train was late" (Estaba enojado que el tren llegara tarde). "I was angry that the train is late" (Estaba enojado que el tren llegue tarde) sounds INCORRECT in English and Spanish to me. Does that make sense? In other words, if the main clause tense is in the past, you should use the imperfect, or past, subjunctive in the subjunctive clause. Hope this doesn't confuse things more...

updated May 21, 2012
posted by Jota8326
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Because the speaker is expressing anger (an emotion) that the train arrived late, the subjunctive should be used. If you want to say "I'm angry that the train arrived late," use past subjunctive (llegara). If you want to say "I'm angry that the train arrives/is arriving late, you'd use the present subjunctive (llegue). The present subjunctive is also used for the future, as in "I'm angry that the train will arrive late," or "Estoy enojado que el tren llegue tarde." The future subjunctive is rarely used anymore, but I think that would be "llegare." You normally only see it in phrases like "Adonde fueres, haz lo que vieres" or "While in Rome, do as the Romans."

updated May 21, 2012
posted by Jota8326
I need to study more the past subjective. Thank you! - miliard, May 21, 2012
You're more than welcome, but I think you mean "subjunctive!" Thanks and good luck! - Jota8326, May 21, 2012
jajaja - miliard, May 21, 2012
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Llegara is in the imperfect subjunctive. Future for llegar would be llegará. And it would be subjuctive to show emotion.

updated May 21, 2012
posted by jttorbey72
Now that I know it will be easier to use it properly. - miliard, May 21, 2012
Yea, its a very useful tool in conversation, and its really not that hard once you get the hang out present subjunctive either. - jttorbey72, May 21, 2012
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To aleksandra - "llegue" is the present subjuctive (third person singular).

"Llegara" is the third person singular imperfect subjuctive, which is called for in this case.

Go to this link for more info on forming the imperfect subjunctive. imperfect subjunctive

updated Mar 24, 2013
edited by Noetol
posted by Noetol
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So where are all the experts ?

updated May 22, 2012
posted by Stig345