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Maybe I joined this site at the wrong time....

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Hello everyone,

I am new and since I first joined I have noticed a great amount of tension in the air. I also noticed that I did not receive any welcome until I mentioned it yesterday.

This a great website so far for me. I have not had too much time studying on it, but the time I have has been enjoyable.

I have seen a lot of negative comments, etc, from the "oldies" on here and I wanted to say my goal has been to learn. Not socialize. I understand that talking in Spanish and interacting with friends here is great, but please do not forget the whole reason why this site was created in the first place. I am not saying that people are using the chat room only to socialize!

Also, Martha did not say it was permanent. I think most of you should show more appreciation towards her and the others because the whole reason why they closed it is because it was getting out of control (at least that is what I've gathered, correct me if I'm wrong). Thus, she was trying to protect you all. Don't you think they deserve thanks and not hates?

I was wondering if maybe I could put this in perspective a bit: Oldies (no offense at the term), how is it different from when the old admins and moderators were in charge? What has changed and why/how is it worse?

Please do not close this post. I would like to receive answers and hopefully get people to realize that maybe it hasn't changed that much and that it is a simple rejection of authority.

My opinion only.

Thank you all moderators, admins, and members,

Dare

P.S.

If this is against the forum rules and you have to close it or delete it, I understand. My PM box is open if you need to get in touch with me about any misunderstandings.

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updated Apr 25, 2012
edited by Dare7
posted by Dare7
Bien dicho amiga. Gracias por escribiendo con respeto. =] - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
Gracias, DJ. :) - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
Welcome Dare7. I'm new here also, but thoroughly enjoying everything. Every garden needs a little weeding once in a while. :-) - 0095ca4c, Apr 24, 2012
Well said and very true. :) - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012

11 Answers

10
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As you can tell from the posts that you are seeing, there was some disturbance on the site several months ago when some long time moderators left because they were unhappy with the owners of the site. This made a lot of people leave with the moderators (taking their side). Those of us who stayed with spanishdict were determined to not let this situation affect us, and we are here ready and willing to learn. I believe that the change in the chat room brought back some old feelings, but things around here have been being good.

Trust me, this is one of the VERY best sites for learning Spanish. I have been tremendously successful here, and for the most part the previous problems are in the past. Come help us to create new memories of those that help us to learn Spanish.

Welcome. You must understand that there are MANY members on this site. Sometimes people stay gone for awhile, and then they come back. You really do have to announce that you are new. The rewards are worth it. We love having new people, and we look forward to learning with you. You bring new blood, so you absolutely picked the RIGHT time to join.

updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by kdrinning
Thank you very much, Kdrinning. I am sure this will be an enjoyable journey for me. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
Well said. - annierats, Apr 24, 2012
Way to go Kdrinning!:) - rac1, Apr 24, 2012
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G'day mate , welcome ! I have been away for the past 3 weeks so may have missed

saying howdy when you first came on , now young'n there is always tension in the air

and that is just how I like it , that nose tingling ozone keeps you on your toes and

gets the grey cells excited and itching to work. I am an oldie probably the oldest

here in years , and if you ever hear a negative comment emanating from my

medula oblongata you will need to use a " oui ja board " so take no notice of

people who cannot handle a change of socks let alone a change in tempo ,

all things in life are impermanent and subject to change , we just have to learn

to swim along with the incoming tide , so do your lessons and have fun mate , and if

you have any problems then PM old Ray and he will try to help you . Thanks for your comments mate , intelligent input is always welcome and necessary. : ) smile

updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by ray76
Good answer Ray! - rac1, Apr 24, 2012
Thank you, Ray! I will keep that in mind. :) - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
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Hey dare7,

Bienvenido de nuevo amiga jeje... I saw this and felt obligated to say, I've been here since early '09 and have seen L O T S of changes (as you can imagine). I'm not writing you as a mod, but as a fellow member in this case and hopefully as an eventual friend. Everytime changes come, as is in life, there are many people who wish to reject those changes and raise a fuss about them. The problem is, change is the only thing that we can rely on to never change. Change will always happen, one way or another, someway and/ or somehow. smile

I think back to a change that bothered me as a child that of course now is nothing. I don't know how old you are, but I remember when Coca-Cola changed their Cherry Coke label (and I think the taste some) to the newest design. It used to be a black can with a really good looking Cherry (well cherries checkered all over) and well, I won't bore you with my silly childhood story. The point is it really upset me, I thought, "How could the change the Cherry Coke!?! There's nothing wrong with it!" wink

I guess what I would like for you to take from all this. I'm here to help (as are the other mods and experienced members of course), and I hope you don't feel awkward with the displeased people here trying to stop the inevitable cycle of life. The goal everyone seeks of pleasing everyone is unfortunately unrealistic so we choose to focus on a smarter goal and that is keeping this site running and efficiently educational. grin I'm glad you've chosen to come learn with us. Stick around a little bit and the tension will leave soon enough. tongue laugh

Saludos,

DJ ((( d(-_-)b )))

updated Apr 25, 2012
edited by DJ_Huero
posted by DJ_Huero
Bien dicho, DJ. - annierats, Apr 24, 2012
Great job mate , I am glad to see that people of your calibre are still around , give em hell son ! - ray76, Apr 24, 2012
Thanks Ray and Annie... and Ray, I gotta say, I love the way you talk (no wierd stuff though). =] - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
Weird stuff , weird stuff moi ! I really have no idea what you are talking about dear boy. - ray76, Apr 24, 2012
Thank you DJ - rac1, Apr 24, 2012
Buenas palabras mi amigo. Hola:) - Jraider, Apr 24, 2012
Thank you very much, DJ. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
@ Ray Nevermind, unfortunate side-effect of living in the USA. ;-P - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
@ y'all I'm glad I'm could share some (what I hope to be) uplifting words. =] - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
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I hear and feel what you are saying! I also came to SD at the wrong time! I have been out for about a week and have stopped by for a few minutes once in a while. Like someone else said, there has been some tension since the old moderators left. Some of them who are still here and their close friends (oldies) still have remnants of their unhappiness and it shows!

  • Welcome to SD! Ignore rudeness, embrace the learning and good people!

  • One thing that I have learned over the years is that I have the power to change my actions and attitude, but I cannot change others. I can try to influence them, but the ultimate power resides within each one of us!

  • Have fun, and enjoy the site!
updated Apr 25, 2012
edited by farallon7
posted by farallon7
Thank you very much, señor! No te preocupes, I am very much in control of how I act and feel in a situation. I was not irritated in writing that; only stating an opinion. Estoy feliz. :) - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
¡Me alegra mucho! - farallon7, Apr 24, 2012
Down here (Tejas, Los EEUU), commonly said, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink!" =] - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
Sí, eso es verdad. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
You are such a valuable contributor to this site, and I have missed you while you were gone, farallon7. Please stay with us. You are appreciated. - kdrinning, Apr 24, 2012
Thanks a bunch kdrinning! I also think you are a great asset to SD! - farallon7, Apr 24, 2012
Yes, we need people like you here Farallon and DJ...and of course, all of you..I am thankful that you are all here to help me learn!!! - rac1, Apr 24, 2012
You are so true DJ-huero! I think exactly the same way! The sad thing is when someone thinks he/she is leading the horse and not realize they are the horse, the one that does not want to drink. - farallon7, Apr 24, 2012
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Bienvenido otra vez, Dare!

I would actually not worry too much about 'bienvenidos' Dare"'. It's not personal, it depends on somebody noticing that you're new. I don't think I've had one yet..

As for the chat, I'm sure we can survive until it's sorted out. I've never used it actually, I'm not sure how you do it!.

As DJ and Ray so sensibly say, things change.. Life goes on. Change your socks according to Ray's instructions and keep going, as we get better we give better answers, then some of us leave for various reasons , others come in.

It's inevitable. I recommend a glass of wine as the perfect antidote unless you're too young to drink alcholic beverages. If so, make yourself a mug of hot cocoa and relax. Feel welcome !

updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by annierats
Thanks, Annierats. Appreciate it. :) - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
Bienvenido annierats. lol. Now you have had one!! - kdrinning, Apr 24, 2012
annierats, the calming beverage is a grand idea. I'm with you :=) It doesn't do anyone any good to get their knickers in a knot...that just creates more irritation! I'm sure all will be well again at SD soon. - 0095ca4c, Apr 24, 2012
:):):) - rac1, Apr 24, 2012
Thank you kdrinning! I think the troubles will pass.. - annierats, Apr 25, 2012
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I've been on this site for quite some time, and have seen many changes.

updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by Rey_Mysterio
Thanks for your comment. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
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Hola DonCiro, you are very wrong! I do not know who that person is, but I find it highly offensive that you would assume that just because I am new and outspoken that I am a fake.

I am a woman. Not a man. Check out my profile and look at my questions and answers. Prove it if you can. But you can't because you're wrong.

Dare

P.S.

FYI, you owe me an apology.

updated Apr 25, 2012
edited by Dare7
posted by Dare7
The issue has been noted and will be monitored. Please let this be the end of the public dispute. This message will be left on both user's comments. Thank you. - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
Thank you very much. I'm sorry for this "problem". - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
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LOL As nice as it is to see everyone getting along, I would simply like to say:

Dare7 = camorra!!! A.K.A. monarchy/heirarchy/quespam/quespanol/etc. I can't remember all of his names.

Just an FYI smile

updated Apr 25, 2012
edited by DonCiro
posted by DonCiro
I refuse to engage in a back and forth with Dare7/heirarchy for he is the one who gave rise to this whole mess. I simply ask the mods to look at his writing style/IP and they will recognize it. Good day to you all. - DonCiro, Apr 24, 2012
You are refusing to engage in a normal conversation from someone who has been falsely accused. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
Wow Don, that's a bit unfair don't you think? personally I don't see the resemblance in writing. You aren't being very clear minded, amigo.... - 00cdfbd9, Apr 24, 2012
Wow kat. I can't believe you would flag me. Do yo not remember him using "hierarchy" in the chat. And now he is talkling to himself on other threads trying to act as if Dare7 isn't him. IT is. There is no doubt in my mind. - DonCiro, Apr 24, 2012
It's unfortunat you would accuse me of not bienig clear-minded. But, in any case, I don't want to be dramatic and I didn't pursue it any further. I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the mods. I'm over it. - DonCiro, Apr 24, 2012
And, to be sure, it is him. no matter if he says he is a girl. They banned camorra and so he created a new account. give me some credit, kat. I have never accused anyone of anything and i never quibble with anyone. i would think you would give me a little - DonCiro, Apr 24, 2012
....more credit instead of joining his choir of criticisms and accusations. - DonCiro, Apr 24, 2012
The issue has been noted and will be monitored. Please let this be the end of the public dispute. This message will be left on both user's comments. Thank you. - DJ_Huero, Apr 24, 2012
Back off, kat, you got involved in this at the wrong time. Sorry but you aren't really helping anything. Don I'm sorry for this misunderstanding but you are wrong. Lets keep this to private as DJ has requested. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
ugh. i was not bieng hostile. im sorry you feel that way and i dont understand why your are attacking me like such, but hey, i hope you have a good day. I'm going to stop discussing this as DJ requested. - DonCiro, Apr 24, 2012
I replied to your PM, Don. I wish that you could see that I am not lying. I would like to be on friendly terms with you because I am not the person you think I am. - Dare7, Apr 24, 2012
Please don't tell users to "back off" thanks. This is not that serious, move on. - 00ddf848, Apr 25, 2012
Okay, fine. Lo siento Kat. No harm intended. - Dare7, Apr 25, 2012
It's okay, Dare. - 00cdfbd9, Apr 25, 2012
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You joined at exactly the right time!

We are moving up and onward toward a more positive site that focusing on the love of learning.

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updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by --Mariana--
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The positive experience is in the knowledge related by the native speakers & the syntax pundants. Focus on the goal &, like missy888 once said, try to learn how the Spanish/Latino mind thinks. All is well when the steps are made sure with eyes open. Be well & SAFE!!!

updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by HowardO
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Yes, things do change and time marches on. People must adapt like in life. I have tended to refrain from answering questions or welcoming members since the new protocols started and that is unfortunate. Also, a pity, is the loss of the chat room. But, I'm hoping things will get better. Stay a while and see. Welcome to the forum. smile

updated Apr 25, 2012
posted by sanlee