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An Update about the SpanishDict Chat

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We are sorry to say that the SpanishDict chat has been disabled. Unfortunately, we have not had the tools needed to properly moderate the chat and abuse of the chat room had become too frequent. For help with your questions, please feel free to post a message here or in the feedback tab on the right of the screen.

Thank you for your patience in this matter.


The SpanishDict Team.

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updated Nov 21, 2014
edited by martha-sd
posted by martha-sd
Thanks Martha - rac1, Apr 23, 2012
Yes, thank you Martha and all moderators - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
i would like to thank you Martha and everyone in your team for your help with my study. - tonterias, Apr 23, 2012
I will truely miss all mis amigos, who were the mature ones and were serious about the site. ¡ Qué lástima ! - deputydawg, Apr 24, 2012
Deputy, wait! You better not go amigo!! :( - 00cdfbd9, Apr 24, 2012
oh amigos this is like a funeral - tonterias, Apr 24, 2012
Ton ton, i sent you a PM. - 00cdfbd9, Apr 24, 2012
I hurts beyond words, that you would censor me speaking out on the racial hatred that I've encountered here. I now know I really must leave this place. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
Hey don't worry, Cam, my post was deleted too. lol. - 00cdfbd9, Apr 24, 2012
Camorra, racial hatred and censoring has nothing to do with the removal of your posts. You are breaking forum rules is why. Kat, Nikkie is sending you a PM. - bandit51jd, Apr 24, 2012
I didn't write that racial hatred was the cause of it... censoring yes... but now you are being insensitive. You are pretending that I implied that you took down my post out of racial hatred. I've been offended beyond words tonight. I can't believe this. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
I learnt a lot in the chatroom. There were many people who were very helpful. Can we have the chatroom back. por favor. If it is possible.?;)) Thanks. - iana01, Apr 24, 2012

34 Answers

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Hola Martha, I feel sad that the SpanishDict chat has been disabled. I am from Taiwan, and SpanishDict is my only choice to learn Spanish. I have been learning Spanish a lot in this website. I have also been practicing my pronunciation in the chat room. I met many friends in the chat room, and we help each other to practice Spanish and improve our Spanish a lot. This chat room is very important for us to learn and to practice our Spanish. So, please don't let the chat room be disabled. You can't imagine how it is meaningful and important for me. I have been learning Spanish for ten months in this website, and I have been improving my Spanish a lot. Thank you very much Martha and all the people who work in SpanishDict. We appreciate very much all of you for providing such a good website to learn Spanish and English.

updated Nov 21, 2014
edited by gracelai
posted by gracelai
Don't worry Grace, tus amigos están aqui. =] We've been working on this for a while and I'm sure we'll have a even better chat here soon. ;-) - DJ_Huero, Apr 23, 2012
Thanks, DJ. We are not only practice Spanish in the chat room, we also make good friends. The friends can help each other. - gracelai, Apr 23, 2012
I agree, and you're progress has been immense and still continueing. - DJ_Huero, Apr 23, 2012
hi Grace! I hope they reopen the chat, because i was learning alot from you and others. and it was always nice chatting w u all! - ruthlessjblaze, Apr 23, 2012
Thanks for speaking out Grace. You are one of the users who truly used the chat to enrich your language skills. You were harrassed a few times and you simply ignored it and moved on. You are an example for us all. - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
Sorry about all of this Grace, you've been doing so so well. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
Hola, ruth, I was so glad to chat with you, and I learned a lot from you too. We spoke Spanish and improved our Spanish together. I hope that we will practice Spanish together soon in the chat room. - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
Thanks, DonCiro. Many people used the chat room to learn just like me. We all love this chat room and we hope that it will reopen soon. - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
Thanks, Camorra. I hope that we will talk to each other soon in the Chat room. - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
I love to talk to you in the mornings grace. (night for you).:))) - Ranman, Apr 24, 2012
Oh, Ranman, I love to talk to you too, no matter in the morning or at night. The important thing is that we learned Spanish together, and we had good time by learning it. - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
I'll miss you Grace, even if I always had to leave halfway through our conversation every night to cook dinner. xD - cheskasullivan, Apr 24, 2012
haha, Cheska, I will miss your dinner every night. Although I couldn't have dinner with you, I knew that you enjoy your dinner every night. - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
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The problem was that the people abusing it came back every time they were banned and they abused it again and again.

Why can't you ban the ones who have caused this permanently? There is no problem in the chat room and no need for a moderator when the people who were causing the problem in the first place are GONE. People generally act well and decent. But when someone comes in and starts insulting everyone, who is going to just shut up and take it? Not me. So, that's my suggestion. Ban the ones you get the most reports about permanently.

I agree completely with what DonCiro said. It does seem like that. The moderators are taking more control than they should. What happened to the relaxed atmosphere? What happened to it being FUN? I have noticed that the forum lately has been absolutely dead. Who wants to step past the line if they are just going to be flagged and PM'd a warning? If you moderators are trying to get this to work better, I think you are doing it the wrong way. Don't take me wrong though, I do appreciate the work all of you do, but I think you are putting too many rules across the table. You are punishing everyone for something that only SOME people caused. That sounds very unfair.

It's like this: A group of people are talking decently and playing a game. Someone comes over and starts cussing everyone out and messing up the game. The people who were playing get angry, rightfully so. Someone in authority comes over and takes the game, thus punishing everyone together, and tells them they won't get it back. They tell the fight causer to go away for a day. And the problem recycles....

That is how it is around here right now.

It is indeed a shame that it has been disabled. I hope there will be a solution to this. I have met many, many friends on there too and it would be a big disappointment not to practice with them.

Thanks,

Kat

updated Nov 21, 2014
edited by 00cdfbd9
posted by 00cdfbd9
I agree, and the main problem was the chat provider we were using did not allow for us to moderate the way we needed to. - martha-sd, Apr 23, 2012
Yes. - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
srry i am bad - corbin8765, Apr 23, 2012
I am SO sorry, i should have stopped when you told me to(am i one of your friends?) - schoolisprison, Apr 23, 2012
Corbin and School, listen very carefully. You two caused some problems, but you are not the cause of this. Some other people are. Okay? Of course you are my friends. Don't beat yourself up over it. You aren't bad. You are young. Hugz to both of you. :) - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
lol Corbin and Schoolisprison, it's all your fault! haha jk guys. :)) you guys are alright - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
The birthplace of "goots" is no longer :( - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
Yea, I know, Don. :( - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
=( - DJ_Huero, Apr 23, 2012
I'm sorry, Huero. Maybe I spoke harshly about you moderators, but that's how I feel. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
I'll like to add to your post now since you've addressed me... that most of the most disgusting things I've ever read and or heard/seen on the chat was from users that have not been banned *recently at least* That's a fact. Let's not deny it. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
The issue needs to be resolved, it needs to be fixed, and rather I'm on this site or not (which I will not be) these hurtful hateful things I've seen and heard, need to be made to not happen. We can all agree on that. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
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That Chat room has been one of the best places about this web site. I have met so many nice people, many Spanish native speakers and Spanish learners as well. I hope that you can find a solution because it was a great place to learn Spanish and meet people. It worked very much like Skype. If any one wants to PM me, we can set up Skype chats with each other.

Esa sala de chat ha sido uno de los mejores lugares de este sitio web. He conocido a mucho gente agradable, muchos hablantes nativos de español y estudiantes de español también. Espero que pueden encontrar una solución porque era un gran lugar para aprender español y conocer gente. Funcionaba de forma muy a Skype. Si alguien quiere enviarme un PM, podemos empezar a conversar en Skype con juntos.

updated Nov 21, 2014
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
Corrections welcome, Thanks - sanlee, Apr 23, 2012
"...conocido a mucha gente...Espero que puedan encontrar...Funcionaba de forma muy similar a Skype....podemos empezar a conversar en Skype juntos. Typo: "IF any" ;) - Cordobesa, Apr 23, 2012
¡Muchas gracias, Cordabesa! - sanlee, Apr 23, 2012
Thanks for all the convo sanlee, cuidate and hope to speak with you again someday. Muchas gracias - deputydawg, Apr 24, 2012
You are welcome, Deputy and thank you to all the very fine people that I have met on the chat! I have learnied so much from all of you! - sanlee, Apr 24, 2012
Yes, Sanlee, I agree. The chatroom has been one of the best places about this web site. It was really a great place to learn!! I hope it will be back soon! - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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I have read all of the comments made by other users and agree with everyone. It is a sad day for me because once again i see that the actions of a few have curtailed the enjoyment of many. ! would like to thank all the team for working so hard in the backroom and i sincerely hope you will be able to come up with a solution. For me the chat was a great place to learn and practice and i have made so many good friends, I will miss it terribly.

Gracias amigos

so for the first time in months i have learned nothing tonight

updated Nov 21, 2014
edited by tonterias
posted by tonterias
Heyo Ton ton, same here amigo. - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
I'll be missing you Ton Ton... jaja.. I still remember giving you that name. ;-P - DJ_Huero, Apr 23, 2012
hihihi DJ - tonterias, Apr 23, 2012
hola ton, don't forget to add me on Skype =] - DJ_Huero, Apr 23, 2012
Don't worry Tont, we talked for skype! Salute! - sabrinaq, Apr 24, 2012
It was a pleasure to know you tonterias, cuidate señor. Hope to be able to speak with you again. - deputydawg, Apr 24, 2012
you too mi amigo deputy - tonterias, Apr 24, 2012
Yo tambien estoy triste tonterias. :/ - diego_81, Apr 24, 2012
Don't be sad, be nice. =) - 00ddf848, Apr 24, 2012
Hi Tonte! Hopefully the chatroom will be back soon. Bye, Tonte!! - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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I notice people who really wanted to use chat were users setting up accounts frequently, and gaining the minimum required points to be able to access the chat room.

Is it possible to re-open the chatroom if you allow users with a higher number of points in it? That way you know you are getting "real" users and serious learners as opposed to spammy, "green" users with ulterior motives...

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by missy8888
Missy, it is possible to do that but not with the chat program we had, they did not have good moderator capabilities. - martha-sd, Apr 23, 2012
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Qué pena.

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by -cae-
A shame indeed dear friend, it must not deter us , we have to keep living by setting a good example and gradually others will follow our lead. - ray76, Apr 23, 2012
That's true Ray. - rac1, Apr 23, 2012
yes. :(( Cae. Your short sentence says a lot. Qué pena!! - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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Awesome. I love how the users never get a say in what happens. We just give "feedback" that apparently, in the end, falls on deaf ears.

A few people ruined it for all of us. And those people know who they are. You let them win today Martha.

This site is not truly oriented toward helping us learn, for if it were, this wouldn't be done like this. This site is more about making the moderators feel like they are in charge.

We were learning in there. I was, Grace was, Sanlee was, Tonterias was, Kat was, Cheska was, Ross was, Diego was, Lagarto was, Deputydawg was and many, MANY others were. And we were going to learn some more today.

Whatever, nothing I say matters. It seems as if the post-Heidita era isn't all too different. They've simply been replaced by a new group of elites.

Edit: After seeing the course this thread has taken I regret my tone in this post. I have appreciation for the site and I don't want to be offensive. For those of you who enjoyed talking/practicing with me my skype is "Kiyan00" (let me know who you are if you add me). One love SD! smile

Cyrus

updated Oct 3, 2014
edited by DonCiro
posted by DonCiro
I take offense to this Don, I have labored endlessly to try and maintain a place for everyone to learn and think that what we had on the chat was not a place that welcomed that because there were people that were abusing the use of it. - martha-sd, Apr 23, 2012
Martha, my intention was not to offend you. As users we are oblivious to what is going on bheind the scenes. We were simply surprised with this today and it's hard not to feel slighted. We were just divested of one of our most valuable tools. - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
But I sincerely thank you for this site and what it has done for me to date. Also, I would also like to express something to you in private later on tonight when I return. Thank you. - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
We are working on other ways to incorporate this feature but make sure that it is better moderated to keep away those that are so disruptive. - martha-sd, Apr 23, 2012
hola ciro, this is so sad, ten cuidado amigo nos vemos - tonterias, Apr 23, 2012
You are right Don, but you have to understand where Martha is coming from. I have heard very bad things from users in Broadcast when mods are out, but I won't point any fingers. This is best. I've seen and heard very nasty things in the Broadcast. - camorra, Apr 23, 2012
Kat, I have perhaps learned at minimum as much as any other user in the time frame from the chat. I do not cause anything... It's angry users like yourself who can not stop attacking. I don't feel like I've ever been out of my right. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
You just wrote profanity towards me, and I usually react to such things, as you said is "natural" in your post on this very thread. I'll leave this site for good, but it get's nasty here. Fact. As you just showed. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
Furthermore Kat, I'm not a vulgar person. I have had some tiffs, but the racial slurs and vulgar filth in Broadcast did *not* come from me. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
Thanks for proving the point of why we had to disable the chat, Camorra. - martha-sd, Apr 24, 2012
camorra, you know you're the reason all this happened. well, congratulations, you got what you wanted. - Debiera, Apr 24, 2012
I find that to be extremely unfair. It's almost hurtful, with all of the racism and vulgarity in the site. We've even worked on Spanish together, then you do this? wow. This is not what I want. I want to learn Spanish. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
kat where is you post? - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
I enjoyed the times we were learning Spanish, but those times seem to have been outnumbered by the times that you were trying to be controversial in the chatroom to gratify some type of issues that you have... I really can't understand you. Some days you - Debiera, Apr 24, 2012
were fine but other days, I was like.... why is he even here. - Debiera, Apr 24, 2012
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As a regular...

I agree, closing the chat, is very disappointing.

In general I would say people were learning and helping each other more often than the trolling took place.

Hopefully the SD team can figure out a better way to rectify the problem by finding a different chat client. I don't remember having these problems before with the previous chat client from almost two years ago.

updated Aug 20, 2013
edited by michellech
posted by michellech
i sincerely hope so as welll michelle - tonterias, Apr 24, 2012
Estoy de acuerdo contigo, Michelle. People were learning and helping each oter. - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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Hi, I don't know what happened but is this permanent?

I've met great people in the chatroom who help me with my Spanish and I would be saddened if you remove SD chat completely.

Also, about those repeat offenders, can you ask the moderators (hopefully those with good judgment) to ban their IP address permanently? Every public chatroom on the internet is bound to have weirdos, perverts and trolls. But they can be driven away if the chatroom is moderated properly. Please do not misunderstand me. I am not trying to put the blame on anyone. I am just stating a fact.

I am also wondering if it is possible to enable the chat when there is a moderator online who would be able to do his/her job while people are chatting. Then maybe you can just disable it again if there's no one trustworthy enough to moderate.

I'm not sure if that's feasible and it's also extra work for you guys (if you decide to do that), but I hope that you don't remove the chat feature permanently. The SD community is wounded as it is, with the recent arguments about posting protocols and guidelines. Disabling the chatroom would be akin to delivering the final blow to those who have remained steadfast and active despite all the tension and member disappointment in the forum.

For what it's worth, I thank you for all your efforts to maintain this website. It is not easy dealing with different people from different backgrounds and your decisions will either gratify or displease just about anyone.

I am disappointed but I hope I did not sound too demanding or harsh. This is just my own sentiment. Please reconsider opening SD chat. It's one of the things that makes SpanishDict a unique and fun place to learn Spanish.

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by cheskasullivan
The problem is that we can no longer assign chat mods, and that is why it has been disabled. - NikkiLR, Apr 23, 2012
Alright, nikki. Thanks for clarifying that up. I hope you find a better alternative to tinychat that will let you assign moderators again. - cheskasullivan, Apr 23, 2012
I hope so too! =D - NikkiLR, Apr 23, 2012
You are spot on, Cheska! :)))) - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
right on, cheska - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
You are 100% correct Che. - camorra, Apr 23, 2012
It's not easy to stay level-headed when you're upset, but I hope you all do. I hope WE all do. Thank you everyone for all your help. - cheskasullivan, Apr 24, 2012
I love to have a good neighbor like you, cheska, my good girl. - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
Thanks Grace. See you around, amiga. - cheskasullivan, Apr 24, 2012
HI Chesi, amiga, I will miss chating with you. Hope to see you soon. - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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I understand how important the chat room is for learning because I learn a lot from

having skype chats , I was wondering could the chat room be run on the same basis

as skype chats , that is by invitation only , in that way if someone is abusive they can be blocked .

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by ray76
You might be onto something amigo... a ver que sale. =] - DJ_Huero, Apr 23, 2012
Yes, you just might amigo! - rac1, Apr 23, 2012
well moderators can ban can't they? And you can ignore people - schoolisprison, Apr 23, 2012
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Oh man. It's hard to believe when you were just on there last night enjoying a good conversation with Sanlee and imperative command lessons from Caefuego =(

I agree with Sanlee. And to testify to one of Nikki's comments, the chat is actually the only thing I really use here. I liked that it was available 24/7. Unlike other sites where I had to work to find people each time I wanted to talk, I could always simply enter the chat room whenever I felt like practicing. Sure it was hit or miss with the topics of conversation and levels of ability and number of people in there, but most of the time it was a hit (and I could always try to send a private message in the chat if I wasn't interested in the group conversation).

I will miss it, but in the meantime I hope I will be able to befriend enough of you on Skpe to create my own quasi-chat room wink Please PM me if you'd like to share skype info, particularly if you are a native English speaker at an intermediate level Spanish.

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by comosedice
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I have been studying Español on spanishdict.com for 9 months. I love the video lessons, flashcards and the chat.

I visit the chat several times per week. The chat room has many nice people from all over the world who are willing to help others improve their Spanish. I enjoy meeting people there. I was really looking forward to using it for years to come.

Please reconsider disabling the chat. It's absolutely critical to my learning process. I have never found a better site on which to chat in Spanish.

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by lagarto
Me too amigo, i am so sad tonight, I have learnt nothing - tonterias, Apr 23, 2012
my skype id is "lagarto187" - lagarto, Apr 24, 2012
Lagarto, you have came along very well since I have been here... congrats, and I hope the franticness and finger pointing from the site can be fixed with Mod attention, and you can continue here learning. Sorry pal. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
I agree. Hopefully i won't have to find a different website because people have been so helpful. I should get some sleep tonight since there isn't a chat to stay up too late talking:/ - 5454CkMac, Apr 24, 2012
Hi, Lagarto, I will miss your question: Cómo estás? Dónde vives? Cuántos aňos tienes? .... etc. ;)))) I hope You will continue studing Spanish. I will not stop studing, even it will be more difficuled now, withouth the chatroom. :(( Chao, Lagarto. - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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We all are familiar with our good friend Ross and I believe we all respect him. Well, Ross has been in the hospital for a while now and every so often he sends me a message. I would like to share those messages:

"Hola ciro. Just wanted to say hi. I've been away for a while and I miss your wit. Estoy enfermo en el hospital. Les extraño mucho a mis amigos de la sala. Para mi es muy divertido charlar y aprender en SD. no puedo acceder SD De mi iPhone. No puedo conseguir mi laptop en el hospital. Abrazos!" - 3/24/12

I sent Ross a message a few days ago asking him how he was doing. He responded:

"Thx. Doing ok. But the thing I miss most is SD chat room! Hopefully will go home in a week." 4/21/12

I posted these messages to illustrate that the decision made today hurts more people than it helps.

updated Aug 20, 2013
posted by DonCiro
Please, who is Ross? I've never met him, but good luck, amigo.. - annierats, Apr 23, 2012
Ross is a member who has been coming to the chat for years. He doesn't really participate in the forum. I'm sure he appreciates your kind words and concern. :) - DonCiro, Apr 23, 2012
This is very touching.. wow. Well, I can say.. don't forget to send in your prayers when at church Ciro. - camorra, Apr 24, 2012
Donciro, Please send my message to Ross. I hope that he can recovery soon. and tell him that I will pray for him. I hope to chat with him soon in the chat room. Thanks Donciro - gracelai, Apr 24, 2012
Hi Donciro! I will miss you all, people!! Donciro, please, say Hola to Ross, please. I hope he is going to be well soon and that meanwhile the chatroom will be open again. Take care, all of you, people!! - iana01, Apr 24, 2012
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Hola! No podemos aprender suficiente espanol sin chat. Necesitamos abrir chat, es divertido escuchar la gente que habla en espanol.

updated Jun 9, 2012
posted by kadmos
I agree! - 00cdfbd9, Apr 23, 2012
Estoy de acuerdo tambien pero habian demasiado gente que no lo usaba para eso. - martha-sd, Apr 23, 2012
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I think the chatroom was a place where many people liked to come and where we learnt a lot.

This chatroom was different from the chatrooms on other learning sites, as it was possible to chat and talk to more people at the same time. That is why so many people liked the SD chatroom. Also the private chat option was a fantastic idea! And listening to native Spanish speakers?? What a perfect way of improving the listening skills!!! People were really helpful in the chatroom.

Because of this all, I will really miss the SpanishDict chatroom.

I met many good people in the chatroom. I learnt a lot there. They were really helpful and I really ejoyed Spanish lessons in the chatroom, or just chatting for fun - joking, spending a good time with nice people.

I will miss you all, people!! And I will miss learning in the chatroom too!

updated Aug 20, 2013
edited by iana01
posted by iana01
i agree iani - tonterias, Apr 24, 2012