La razón de la sinrazón... can anyone explain this passage to me?

Question

Trying to figure out what this means. It's very confusing.

La razón de la sinrazón que a mi razón se hace, de tal manera mi razón enflaquece, que con razón me quejo de la vuestra fermosura... los altos cielos que de vuestra divinidad divinamente con las estrellas os fortifican, y os hacen merecedora del merecimiento que merece la vuestra grandeza.

If anyone can offer a plain english translation or explanation I would be very grateful.

Answer 1

La razón de la sinrazón que a mi razón se hace, de tal manera mi razón enflaquece, que con razón me quejo de la vuestra fermosura... los altos cielos que de vuestra divinidad divinamente con las estrellas os fortifican, y os hacen merecedora del merecimiento que merece la vuestra grandeza.

The reason for the lack of reason is that my reasoning has become exhausted, for reason of your complaints about your fermenting (??) .. the high heavens of your divine diveneness with it's stars that strengthen you, and makes you deserving of you just rewards wich your highness deserves..

Please note, that I 'm only another student and this is just play upon play on words. I can't totally crack it, by any means. I have no idea what the fermosura might be.. My reasoning is now totally exhausted too!

I looked up fermosura, I believe it's the same as hermosura, or beauty. The passage is from Don Quijote, and I actually read a little more and found out that that purpose of the passage was to show the nonsensical nature of the books that drove him mad. - HombreConLaPlana, Mar 17, 2012

And according to the english version of Don Quijote which I also found, you pretty much got the translation spot on. Nicely done :p - HombreConLaPlana, Mar 17, 2012

Well thank you for telling me! I did also se hermosura as an option but it was truly beyond me.. - annierats, Mar 17, 2012

And thank you for accepting my offering! - annierats, Mar 17, 2012

Answer 2

The reason for the without reason that to my reason... well it doesn't make any sense translate it, (Actually, i can't give you a good traduction for that) that text it's part of "Don Quijote de la Mancha". That can be a hard lecture even for natives. =\ (For all its methafors and beacause it's in an old spanish)

The best thing you can do it's search an ediction of the book with footnotes explaining the exactly meaning... or maybe this will help: Primera parte del ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote de la Mancha

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Good luck!

Answer 3

Le explico:

"La razón de la sinrazón que a mi razón se hace, de tal manera mi razón enflaquece, que con razón me quejo de la vuestra fermosura"

First at all, it doesn't make any sense but, if we would try to find what he means (not literaly), we would say something like this:

"El motivo por el cual mi raciocinio ha enloquecido al punto de debilitarse, ¡que con razón me quejo de su hermosura!".

The first time "razón" means reason or motive, the second time "razón" refers to his intellect, his mind ("razón" has different meanings). So "la sinrazón que a mi razón se hace" means " the madness (mindless) to the one my mind is getting...".

Next he says "de tal manera mi razón enflaquece..." meaning that his mind is weakening itself because of his madness.

The next idea is not well connected, it is like a reflection that he expresses in the middle of lucubration, when he confess that he is losing his mind then he reflects: "With a reason I complain about your loveliness (beauty)!".

Finally, the idea is this: The reason why his madness is getting worst is the girl's loveliness.