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use of past subjunctive

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Would one of these sentences be correct, if I wanted to say: I entered to see if there was anyone with who I could talk with.

Entré para ver si habría alguien con quien pudiera hablar.

Entré para ver si había alguien con quien pude hablar.

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updated Mar 5, 2012
posted by Ziggabro
Good question! =) I am still wondering. - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012

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Entrè para ver si habìa alguien con quien pudiera conversar.

updated Mar 5, 2012
edited by luisssito
posted by luisssito
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NikkiRivera's and luisssito's choices are the correct ones:

Entré para ver si había alguien con quien pudiera/pudiese hablar/conversar/platicar. Preterite, imperfect, past subjunctive, infinitive.

updated Mar 5, 2012
edited by FigueroaGaray33
posted by FigueroaGaray33
Thank You. - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
Oh... good. =) Thanks - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
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I pick a mix of the two...(this is just my guess)

Entré para ver si había alguien con quien pudiera hablar.

updated Mar 5, 2012
edited by NikkiLR
posted by NikkiLR
So you pick haber in the imperfect over the conditional. If I was saying it in English I would say.."I entered to see if there might be someone who I could talk with. I know the ending with "with" is bad grammar. - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
So could it be haber in the subjunctive and poder in the past indicative? Entré para ver si haya alguien con quien puse hablar. - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
I hate the subjunctive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
Well, this one sounded good to me... but who knows, I am not a native. In English I would say... "I entered to see if there was someone" - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
Ah, didn't see your other comments until I refreshed... I really don't know... sorry! :( - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
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Hi, Zigga. Welcome to the forum.

We'll wait for someone more advanced to answer your question regarding the Spanish, however, here are a few minor changes to your English sentence:

I entered to see if there was anyone with whom I could speak.

updated Mar 5, 2012
posted by --Mariana--
While the grammar used was technically incorrect it is a very common way of saying it. After all who really uses "whom"? - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
I do! =D - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
Well, I try to... hehe... I have bad habits! - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
Wow, really Nikki? I'm impressed. - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
Yeah.. I also use "shall" at time... Which is not very common in the US... jeje. - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
But yeah, I really try to kick all of my bad habits... I go to grammar-monster.com every now and then. :) - NikkiLR, Mar 5, 2012
Wow...I'm surprised by your comment, Gringo. I use "whom" when appropriate, but then again, I'm a lawyer (and who wants to sound like one of those? Jejeje) - --Mariana--, Mar 5, 2012
I can't think of a single person I know that uses whom. And I know many lawyers and CEOs. - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
Being lawyers and CEOs per se signifies very little in this respect. I'm a mere administrator and I use whom all the time, esp on the phone, "Whom am I speaking to, please?" - Pibosan, Mar 5, 2012
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Thank you guys!

updated Mar 5, 2012
posted by Ziggabro
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This has got me all tangled up.

In English:

  • I entered to see if there was anyone that I could talk with. (Past/Past)
  • I entered to see if there might be anyone that I could talk with. (Subj/Past)
  • I entered to see if there would be anyone that I could talk with. (Cond/Past)
  • I entered to see if there was anyone that I might talk with. (Past/Subj)
  • I entered to see if there might be anyone that I might talk with. (Subj/Subj)
  • I entered to see if there would be anyone that I might talk with. (Cond/Subj)

To me, all of the above work in English. So it seems that there must be several acceptable ways to say it in Spanish. Given my admittedly weak understanding of the subjunctive I guess am really confused.

I entered to see = preterite if there was anyone = its not a certainty so Subjunctive? that I could talk with = again not a certainty, but if there was someone there, then the talking becomes a certainty so I am thinking that the subjunctive may or may not go here.

What a mess!

My last attempt:

Entré para ver si hubiera alguien con quien podría hablar.

updated Mar 5, 2012
edited by gringojrf
posted by gringojrf
Why are you using the future subjunctive there in your last attempt? - FigueroaGaray33, Mar 5, 2012
typo - gringojrf, Mar 5, 2012
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Ziggy said: Entré para ver si habría alguien con quien pudiera hablar.

I pick this one. Which given my understanding of the subjunctive probably means it is wrong. But I still think it sounds the best.

updated Mar 5, 2012
posted by gringojrf