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Feedback, last thread for things that really should be changed, or changed back, Please A D D

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Ok, this is going to be my last thread to combine efforts to make a summary of what things should still be changed or rather "changed back" to what they were before the new look this forum now has.

Bear with me, but the most important issue for me as a moderator and member who spends HOURS on this site, is the register page, which now only asks for "username, e-mail and password". downer

It took us months to convince Christopher to add "gender and above all language proficiency and location" , and now these requirements are simply gone..confused So Now we are back to again to "please fill in your profile" on almost all posts, as one can simply not always guess where the person is from and what his native tongue is.

And second and above all: the SEARCH ENGINE, no suggestion has been considered as far as we know, please let us know if you are at least considering it.

Read this for possible options.

So the first point on this list:

FEEDBACK THREAD ONE

FEEDBACK THREAD TWO

Please add to the list and give more feedback!

Latest activity, can be found under the "users" tab, this should have an extra tab or be somehow more visible.

1) To register on the site you are only asked for username, e-mail and password. NO username information is required. It is impossible to know the language proficiency and origin of the poster.

2) Search engine needs urgent change to be more userfriendly . (please see posts below and threads opened by Izanhoni, webdunce or pesta's suggestions and many others)

3) Codes and formatting do not work, no graphics are possible

4) Quizzes and Spanish site need corrections.

5) Reference section is difficult to find and should have a special link under the "learn" tab.

6) Comments are so small they can hardly be read. FIXED

The links for edit, author or post, time etc, also clearly marked now (underlined), FIXED

7) Avatar cannot be changed FIXED

8) Acronyms cannot be written in caps.

9) On dictionary the gray doesn't allow to read the options properly.

10) No clear separation on PMs as there used to be.

11) Join date is messed up, shows last night for everybody

12) When writing in caps no warning is given, like before, the question or answer is simply not posted.

13) Moderators should be clearly marked as such next to their names on any post, like on the old site.

14) The category of the question does not appear on the Question and Answer page.

15) The tab "Q&A" should be changed to "FORUM" , the forum is now hidden under an unknown accronym.

Please ADD suggestions or things that don't work for you!!

Also write DIRECTLY to FEEDBACK!

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updated Feb 11, 2012
edited by 00494d19
posted by 00494d19
I agree that language proficiency is absolutely essential -- an not just for moderators!! - territurtle, Feb 8, 2012
Thanks for opening a new thread Heidi! :) - 00b6f46c, Feb 8, 2012
Let's keep working on it, Heidita. - annierats, Feb 8, 2012
and not just for moderators!! - territurtle -indeed! - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2012
Can we write acronyms if we add dots? N.A.T.O. - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
Hey, that worked. I did not need to add spaces, but I did add dots. - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
Excellent summary Heidita. Thank you! - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
thanks everybody, I added latest activity, look at the tab - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2012
I think this list summarizes perfectly the users' highest priorities. It would be great if Chris and his team could use it as a guide for their improvements schedule. - Gekkosan, Feb 8, 2012
thanks gekko, imposible does not exist for me, jeje - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2012

54 Answers

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I seem to have my own ideas about how search should work. I generally understand and agree with the suggestions offered by Iza in another thread.

I view searching from a simple basis of what experiences I have had, especially the disappointing experiences.

1. Search criteria limited to an author - Search for a prior post by author X. I know who posted the item I'm searching for. He may be the author of the thread, or just author of the answer. There's no way for me to restrict my search to a single user.

2. Search result order understood or specified by us - Search for a recent post containing the string "whatever". I can search for "whatever" and get a list spanning 50 pages, and it has no perceivable order. It's not by date, not by user. Maybe it's by number of occurrences of the word "whatever", but that doesn't help, because I know it's a recent post; not the post with the most "relevance" (as defined by some secret search-engine algorithm)

3. Sub-searches - I just searched for "whatever" but got too many results. I know that the post I'm searching for is there but it will take an hour to read through them. However, if I could do a search (with some different criteria and sort order) on this first result, I could probably get a fairly small result and find my answer quickly.

4. Search operators - Really good search engines would let me do something like this: search for "goal and not fútbol", or search for "word1 or word2 or word3 +Lazarus1907". This last one would do simple combined criteria on a few words (like it does now) but require that any result must contain "Lazarus1907".

Edit: I left out one--

5. Match sensitivity - Case-insensitive searches are obviously powerful and necessary. But sensitivity to diacritical marks are occasionally important. For example, if I want to search for "sé" or "dé" and I get a million matches for "se" or "de", the search is useless. Or maybe I want to find something on "ésta" but not "está". I would like a way to specify that my search works contrary to the automatic default setting for this.

updated Feb 11, 2012
edited by pesta
posted by pesta
I completely agree - cogumela, Feb 8, 2012
Agree! A thousand votes for this. - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
thnks, I have been trying to get this implemented for a year ....but so far have not been lucky:( - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2012
Great idea and a very very useful tool. - ian-hill, Feb 8, 2012
I am very glad you wrote this! - MLucie, Feb 8, 2012
This'd be very helpful, thanks for posting pesta! - 00b6f46c, Feb 8, 2012
Subjunctive+Lazarus1907 = pure gold. - Gregory84, Feb 8, 2012
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A FAQ, for goodness sake! A prominent, easy to see FAQ for all those "how do I roll my 'r' "; "why is el agua and not la", "what's better, Spanish or English"; "what's the difference between ser and estar", and similar questions that get asked 50 times a day!

PULEEEEZEEEE!!??

updated Feb 9, 2012
edited by Gekkosan
posted by Gekkosan
Hey, Lovely's trick wih the all-caps works great! Yay, thanks Lovely! :-) - Gekkosan, Feb 8, 2012
Lovely is a genius. - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
That would be nice. (although, I'm sure some questions would *still* be asked, lol) - Goldie_Miel, Feb 8, 2012
Very good idea - ian-hill, Feb 8, 2012
Yes, there are always those who will ignore the "FAQs" hehe - Gregory84, Feb 8, 2012
Absolutly Agree, all the forums have a ''FAQ'' section! :) - 00b6f46c, Feb 8, 2012
Oh, it's not intended as a cure. But it would be nice if those questions *could* be reduced (after all, we do not have a FAQ right now), and it would also be quicker to simply refer all those questions to the FAQ. - Gekkosan, Feb 8, 2012
You are right, but hey...I don't think taht is going to happen:( - 00494d19, Feb 9, 2012
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I think that the avatars should be bigger, that the moderator label should be more visible, as well as the dates of posting and edition, and that there should be a way of taking notice of the latest activity (if the box doesn't come back, at least replace it for a similar tool that allows us to know who is voting, answering...) as the interaction between members in the forum (that was already scarce enough) is now completely missed, so it's very, very easy to miss comments and corrections on the threads.

I know that I sound like a scratched LP, but these are previous comments about changes I have absolutely no news about.

updated Feb 9, 2012
edited by cogumela
posted by cogumela
I really agree. - annierats, Feb 8, 2012
Ha, now the common saying is "I sound like a broken record...", but, for humorous effect, you can get creative and say something like "sound like a scratched LP"... it definitely works here!!! Sounds very natural. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2012
:) Noticed. I translated literally from Spanish. My mistake. Thank you for telling me. - cogumela, Feb 8, 2012
LoL I like the Spanish version better - scratched record is more accurate. Soon it won't matter because no one will remember what an LP was. :) - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
I am hoping that the stack of LPs and 78s and 45s I have in my garrage will soon be worth a fortune :) - ian-hill, Feb 8, 2012
Some younger folks will wonder, What's a record? What's an L.P.? Why do we call them D.J.'s....? :) - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
Good points, Cogu... Let's keep repeating it. - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
My father has lots of LPs in from the 60s and 70s they are only worth about 10$ each. - Gregory84, Feb 8, 2012
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The size of the comments is bigger now! It's great! No tired eyes anymore! grin

updated Feb 9, 2012
posted by PrincessMariam
Much better! Thank you Chris and co.!!! - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
Yes it's a delight! :) - rabbitwho, Feb 8, 2012
Yes, it is much better! Thank you! - t1funnyface, Feb 8, 2012
Yes, thank you, thank you, I have noticed too! - annierats, Feb 8, 2012
hmmm, is "co." me? jeje - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2012
yes Heidita :) - MaryMcc, Feb 9, 2012
Well, Chris & co. would be the web masters. Heidita is in a class of her own - Champion of the Cause! I should say a tireless and fearless champion too. Gracias! - ajaks, Feb 9, 2012
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If I may add a small, low-priority suggestion...

When the issue of requiring users to complete their profile with language proficiency is sorted out, I think it would be nice if that info could be included in the little window that pops up when you hover over an avatar. Even if it only stated the language that person lists as their native language, it would be helpful to people when they are attempting to answer a question for that user.

My two cents. smile

updated Feb 8, 2012
posted by hollyjollyberry
yep it would - ian-hill, Feb 8, 2012
I agree with this idea. - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
Add my vote. I suspect that the developes may not really understand how *very important* it is to know the language proficiencies of the writers, in order to give an appropriate answer! - Gekkosan, Feb 8, 2012
I think so too. I know I make alot of silly jokes, but I would never want to demoralize a beginner, it would be unforgiveable. - annierats, Feb 8, 2012
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the most important issue for me as a moderator and member who spends HOURS on this site, is the register page, which now only asks for "username, e-mail and password".

It took us months to convince Christopher to add "gender and above all language proficiency and location" , and now these requirements are simply gone. So Now we are back to again to "please fill in your profile" on almost all posts, as one can simply not always guess where the person is from and what his native tongue is.

This is a serious issue and can't be stressed enough. When trying to give a helpful answer a poster's question, this information is essential. I always check the poster's profile first now, after learning this lesson the hard way. Even for questions that are well-written (and many are anything but!) it helps us to know this information in order to formulate the most appropriate answer. And if we don't know the gender of the person, how are we supposed to welcome them in Spanish? Basic!!

I don't understand the resistance to implementing this. I have an assumption, but I might be wrong. Please enlighten me!

updated Feb 9, 2012
posted by ajaks
I don't know if the word "re-implement" this, as this existed on the old site...we finally got it and now it is gone...estoy triste:( - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2012
I would love to know what your assumption is ajaks. - ian-hill, Feb 8, 2012
I'm guessing that someone feels that requiring this information might discourage some people from registering. Just a guess. - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
Yes, Heidita, I think you have it right. It was "done" and now it's been "undone." Why? We need it back! - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
I don't see why we should ask gender. I know some people won't want to fill it out, and it's not that useful, we can always say "cansado for a boy, cansada for a girl," it's not that much extra work. - rabbitwho, Feb 8, 2012
@Rabbit: while I see that this might be an issue, I disagree. Very often my corrections have to do with the fact that the write is using gender incorrectly. It wouldn't be such a deal if it weren't such a common and easy mistake to make. English speakers… - Gekkosan, Feb 8, 2012
…need to work on getting genders right in Spanish, since they do not exist in English. - Gekkosan, Feb 8, 2012
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On the new quizzes, unlike all the other learning material, no record seems to be made that you have done them.

I do not care whether the scores are posted in some table for everyone to look at or not.

I do not care whether I get any points for doing them or not.

I do not care whether the percentage I have done is shown on my profile or not.

But I would like to be able to personally see whether I have done one or not, and what my personal best score was if I have, so I can see if I need to do it for the first time still, do it again because my score was not good red face, or can assume I understood the material.

This of course is with the assumption that the quizzes reach a level of accuracy that makes our native speakers happy. wink

(Really, how can we go on correcting people for failing to use tildes when the official quiz has this sentence (cut and pasted directly): Quisiera una habitacion con bano privado ___ dos noches.)

Sorry if this one has already been done, there are so many now.

updated Feb 12, 2012
edited by Stadt
posted by Stadt
You are right, stadt, I cannot recommend doing the quizzes until they are corrected, there are so many mistakes it is not a ten minutes task. and not recommendable doing them, you might get confused - 00494d19, Feb 11, 2012
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I agree 100% that the registration page needs to require more information. The proficiency in Spanish and English are indispensable if a person is going to give a meaningful answer. A question on ser vs. estar or preterite vs. imperfect should be handled totally differently for a beginner vs. an advanced student.

For users who are interested in accessing special features on the site, such as the reference section or the Phrasebook, it would make sense to have those immediately visible at the top of the page, instead of having to click on "More/Más". A visitor to the site would not have any idea that they are available. Speaking as a person who has spent a lot of time working on the Phrasebook, I am wondering if anyone even uses it?

I know that this has been mentioned many times, but all of us who use Spanishdict on a regular basis deeply care about this site and its future. The number and vehemence of the responses is a testimony to our personal involvement and caring.

updated Feb 10, 2012
posted by mountaingirl123
I use the phrasebook a lot, and offer links to it in answers as often as possible. - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
Oh, thank you! - mountaingirl123, Feb 8, 2012
I use the phrasebook on a regular basis as well, and greatly appreciate it as well. - Stadt, Feb 8, 2012
Same here, probably not as much as I should too. - Gregory84, Feb 8, 2012
I use the phrasebook - but when I looked for "out of my depth" I got 19 pages !! but not one with the word "depth" - not very useful. - ian-hill, Feb 10, 2012
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I think the search engine needs improvement. Sometimes i don't know where to find something and I search for it and its says " no results found" but I know its on here somewhere! lol

updated Feb 8, 2012
posted by LucyDog111
Yes, that was actually a problem with the original site. I frequently use Google to search the site for such things....just do searches like this in Google: "site:spanishdict.com webdunce how to roll R" (without the quote marks). - webdunce, Feb 8, 2012
I mean I use SD's search function first, but if doesn't return results I know are there, I turn to Google. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2012
"no results found" or the results list is so long that it is not much help at all. - ian-hill, Feb 8, 2012
I just use google to start with! But it's normal for a websites internal search to be bad, and searches are a big drain on the servers. Maybe it could be powered by google? - rabbitwho, Feb 8, 2012
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Basically Cogumela has made my points for me.

On a more positive note, the editing has become easier again, the Spanish letters have returned. Thank you!

A suggestion:

Could we have a nice colourful picture on the front page, which is very dull now? It is also very similar to that of other learning sites.

I can see that the avatars on the front were possibly a bit mysterious and off-putting for newcomers to the site but maybe we could have a beautiful photo from the Andes or a nice one from the Pueblos Blancos in Andalucía, or similar. It could be changed from time to time..Many of us would be keen to supply the photos!

updated Feb 8, 2012
posted by annierats
Great idea! - ajaks, Feb 8, 2012
it would stand out and people might even return to the site to see what the Homepage had on it.. Only a thought. - annierats, Feb 8, 2012
Nice suggestion. - MLucie, Feb 8, 2012
A nice colorful picture of... Spanish culture? Paralee in an evening gown? - pesta, Feb 8, 2012
Nice thought. I like that idea. - t1funnyface, Feb 8, 2012
@ Pesta: I would like to seher ina flamenco outfit! - annierats, Feb 8, 2012
@pesta.. Well that would get the guys coming back hahah. - Gregory84, Feb 8, 2012
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When using Flashcards the new number totals do no add into the scores (update) unless you exit and then return. Used to work right. Now broken. And no other way to "refresh".

There used to be miniature star/badge/point icons near the screen names didn't there?

I don't know if anyone else would be interested in this but I would be interested in being able to identify which flashcard sets I have already done so I could find the ones I have not done faster (i.e. before several clicks & screens to view the scores).

It might also be useful to have a search function within the flashcards so people could find particular subjects.

I also happen to agree with the folks who have mentioned the "brightness" of the white background. I realize we could address this individually by resetting the brightness and/or contrast but that would affect the use of everything on the computer.

Also, I would appreciate just a bit of "left margin" attention. Por ejemplo, this page is right up against the "frame" and there is a big, broad, bright white space up the right side. This is somewhat disturbing visual image looking imbalanced, crowded on the left and awkwardly also bright on the eyes. (using internet explorer because right now firefox makes the font size too small)

updated Feb 12, 2012
posted by Spenco
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Dear Heidita :

Thanks so much .I finally changed the avatar . Every thing is getting better . alt text

updated Feb 12, 2012
posted by 00fb46c8
thank you for sticking with us through this complicated moment:) - 00494d19, Feb 11, 2012
Yes, thank you. I hope to see you around :-D - Gregory84, Feb 11, 2012
4
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Conjugator needs fixing, you can congugate English words like red, green...

http://www.spanishdict.com/conjugate/red

Please don't laugh, jejeje LOL

updated Feb 12, 2012
edited by ian-hill
posted by 00494d19
I never noticed that before - Words fail me !! - ian-hill, Feb 10, 2012
Redded - have redded etc. - ian-hill, Feb 10, 2012
I'm blueing , in the cold, myself.. - annierats, Feb 10, 2012
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Heidita, I didn't read all 37 comments. But I have one comment. I think the miniscule avatars you see on Q&A page are so tiny as to be pointless. Why have an avatar at all if you can't see it? I wrote Chris about this and he replied that it is a "cleaner". I think "pointless" would be a better description. smile

updated Feb 11, 2012
posted by Jeremias
With all the word wrap and such, why are misaligned useless avatars cleaner??? "Cleaner" would be just to make the whole page white-on-white. Clean. :) - pesta, Feb 9, 2012
thanks, I didnt include this in the list, as I have no hope to see this being changed:( - 00494d19, Feb 9, 2012
Oh well - does Chris really want any more "suggestions" ? :) - ian-hill, Feb 9, 2012
It was so nice when I could just go looking for Mashall's, Chris', or Heidita's avatar when I was trying to do one of their regular threads, without having to read anything. - Stadt, Feb 9, 2012
Exactly. This is what has been lost. - Jeremias, Feb 11, 2012
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Please forgive any repetitions, as I haven't read all your comments.

  1. I've noticed at some pages grey letters are very light.

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updated Feb 10, 2012
posted by ianta