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Un día,un asno pastaba tranquilamente en un prado.De repende vio avanzar hacie él un lobo. Como no tenía tiempo para huir sintió mucho miedo sin saber qué hacer. No podía resistir ni pedir clemencia,pues el lobo tenía la fama de ser muy cruel. Pero como el apuro agudiza el ingenio, tras mover un rato las orejas, se le ocurrió fingirse cojo. Se aproximó el lobo y le preguntó por qué cojeaba.

Hace algunos días,al saltar una cerca, se me clavó una espina en el casco. Ahora lo tengo tan hinchado que apenas puedo caminar. Sufro mucho.

¿ Y eso qué me importa? dijo el lobo, mostrándole los dientes y las garras. Si te voy a devorar, me da lo mismo con espina o sin ella.

No es igual, porque si no me arrancas la espina antes, se te puede clavar en la boca. Te lo aseguro.

Tienes razón. Vamos a sacar esa espinita antes de almorzar. pero levanta la pata,por favor.

Mientras el lobo exminaba atentamente el pie del asno. ,recibió una feroz coz que le arrancó todos los dientes. El lobo maltratado, dijo:

¡Bien me lo merezco! Mi padre sólo me enseñó el oficio de carnicero y ahora quiero meterme de médico.

Question 1...Why it´s SE ME clavó? Why not only me clavó? I think calvar doesn´t have reflexive

Question 2...Why it´s se te puede clavar? I think it´s the same as my question above.

Question 3... Levanta la pata. here it´s modo imperativo, right?

Question4... Why it´s se le ocurrió fingirse cojo? I pretend to sleep is Fingo dormir, but not Me fingo dormir, but why here it´s fingirSE?

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updated Feb 4, 2012
edited by zhmelissa
posted by zhmelissa
Un día in children's stories is Cierto día...de repente....hacia.... - 0074b507, Feb 4, 2012

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se me clavó y se te puede clavar , if they are reflexive, then ,why there's SE in front of them? What does SE do here? Is it passive?

Read this article on Reflexive se used in unforeseen occurences to convey the nuance of accidentally. That is it purpose in your sentences. It is the blame shifting construction, and, yes, it is passive. (notice that no subject is mentioned (the doer) of the sticking...who put the spine in the hoof) and it also can serve to make transitive verbs (clavar) intransitive.

The i.o.p. in those constructions is the dative of interest or dative of possession. (se me clavó una espina...a thorn was stuck into something by accident and even though I did not do the sticking I was effected by it: hence me)

Likewise,

se te puede clavar en la boca....it can get stuck in the mouth...who is effected? (dative of interest), te or whose mouth (dative of possession), your mouth

Datives of interest are effected by the verbs action but are not participants in the action. With the verb clavar, the thorn is what is getting stuck (we don't know who caused it.) That is the blame shifting from a doer to the object. The me or te are not involved in the verbs action, but they are effected by the thorn being stuck or are in possession of one of the participants in the action. (whose mouth, whose hoof)

updated Feb 4, 2012
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se me clavó y se te puede clavar , if they are reflexive, then ,why there's SE in front of them? What does SE do here? Is it passive?

Se is the reflexive pronoun. Te/me are indirect objects. Assuming I have this right, it is exactly the same as olividarse.

Se mi olvidó el cuaderno - literally, It forgot itself to me the notebook.

updated Feb 4, 2012
posted by Jeremias
Se me olvidó I think ,not mi,right? - zhmelissa, Feb 4, 2012
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About my first and second questions, I still have doubts.

se me clavó y se te puede clavar , if they are reflexive, then ,why there's SE in front of them? What does SE do here? Is it passive?

updated Feb 4, 2012
posted by zhmelissa
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Question 1...Why it´s SE ME clavó? Why not only me clavó? I think calvar doesn´t have reflexive

Question 2...Why it´s se te puede clavar? I think it´s the same as my question above.

Question 3... Levanta la pata. here it´s modo imperativo, right?

Questions 1: The verb is clavarse, it does have a reflexive form: "It stuck itself to me the splinter." Similar to the case of olvidarse.

Question 2: "It can stick itself to you in the mouth." Same as #1, really.

Question 3: Exactly, this is the informal imperative.

Spanish is so different. If I heard this, I would understand without really analyzing it. If I were to try to say it, I would get it wrong. If I read it and think about it, I can make sense of it. I HOPE, that is!

updated Feb 4, 2012
posted by Jeremias