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Does Spanish have a Psuedo-Passive Voice?

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¿Tiene español una voz "psuedo-passive" ? Tal como en inglés: "I had the car washed." ¿Cómo se podría traducir eso?

Does Spanish have a psuedo passive voice? Like in the example above, how would I translate that into Spanish?

Would it be something like: "Hube que se lavó el carro." or "Hube el carro lavado." or "Hice que se lavara el carro." or "Se me lavó el carro."

Could you please tell me which one is the best and which ones would make sense, if any?

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updated Jan 23, 2012
edited by Himself12794
posted by Himself12794

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would any of my examples work? - Himself12794

You are trying to translate an idiomatic phrase and it doesn´t work.

However, "Se me lavó el carro" is possible if you give more context such as previously identifying the person doing the washing.

"Hice que se lavara el carro" would mean "I made the car wash itself."

The others make no sense at all. Attempting to translate idiomatic phrases is the kiss of death. Don´t waste your time.

updated Jan 23, 2012
edited by 005faa61
posted by 005faa61
actually I didn't know it was considered an idiomatic phrase, I found a wikipedia article on it and wondered this - Himself12794, Jan 23, 2012
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"Llevé el coche a que me lo lavaran" or simply "Me lavaron el coche."

IN Spain we are different, jeje, we just say:

Lavé el coche, even though you didn't do it yourself raspberry

Look at my learning thread on that topicwink

updated Jan 23, 2012
posted by 00494d19
muchas gracias amiga! - billygoat, Jan 23, 2012
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It´s not a passive voice at all, but we can say, ie "Llevé el coche a que me lo lavaran" or simply "Me lavaron el coche."

updated Jan 23, 2012
edited by 005faa61
posted by 005faa61
would any of my examples work? - Himself12794, Jan 22, 2012
Julian, is the 2nd one with "me" a dative of interest? - 0074b507, Jan 23, 2012
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Click on Heidi's thread

But I don't think it really resolved all the questions about this grammar question.

I thought the "to have something done" form in Spanish was like this:

"Los diabéticos deben hacerse un examen cada 3 meses" for example. -

In other words it does not say they are doing it themselves.

Also "to get something done" can mean "to have something done"

but

It can also mean "to achieve something oneself" which is not the same as "to have something done".

Also "I must have.........." puts the "must" into the past or = "I need to have........."

updated Jan 23, 2012
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
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i would say " llevé el coche a lavar" "i had the car washed"(by someone else) doesnt translate exactly, at least as far as i know. "i had washed the car"is " hube lavado el coche"

updated Jan 23, 2012
edited by J850D
posted by J850D
perhaps it could be something like, "mandé que se lavara el carro"? - Himself12794, Jan 23, 2012
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Here's a quick way to translate your sentences, and my Spanish translation of your sentence.

Hube que se lavó el carro : I had the car which was washed. Hice que se lavara el carro: I had to wash the car.

Hube el carro lavado: I had the car washed. This is the correct form of the sentence. You can also say:

Yo tenía el coche lavado.

Hope I helped! (:

-Cindy

updated Jan 22, 2012
posted by heyitscindyxo