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A use of subjuntive that feels off

A use of subjuntive that feels off

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A guy says (and he is lying)

Me gustaría ir con vosotros. (through the Chappa eye)

and the other guy says

Pues, yo me alegro de que no venga.

He's definitely not coming. So why subjunctive, just because "de que" always needs it no matter the sentence, when there is de and que together we subjunctify?

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updated Jan 15, 2012
edited by jeezzle
posted by jeezzle
Isn't it perhaps the emotional implication of "me alegro" that suggests subjunctive? - pesta, Jan 14, 2012

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The subjunctive is used in this case because there's an emotion being expressed in the first clause. It's the "E" part of the WEIRDO acronym (and the article from the Beta, if you wish: http://beta.spanishdict.com/topics/show/68.

"De que" does not always signify the subjunctive, but rather, the verb that comes before it does. For example, you wouldn't say: "Ahora me doy cuenta de que ese chico sea tu hijo," because "I realize" doesn't trigger the subjunctive.

Subjunctive isn't used only in instances of desire or doubt, but also when there's an emotion being expressed. It basically boils down to not wanting to indicate a fact in the second clause (that he does not come). . grin

updated Jan 15, 2012
posted by freeze10108
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It's just emotion Jeezzle, we want it to be all about us, it's not so important whether you're coming or not, I'm not even going to declare it, the important thing is that I'm happy about it or I'm sad about it etc. smile

updated Jan 15, 2012
posted by Kiwi-Girl
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The other guy is talking to someone else? Anyways, he's expressing his desire for another person, so yes, we use subjunctive.

I don't feel like this is any more complicated than that, really.

updated Jan 15, 2012
posted by unMica
Non desire, but there is no doubt involved. - jeezzle, Jan 14, 2012
apparently I don't understand the context, I should go watch that movie : P - unMica, Jan 14, 2012
it's just that it's expressing emotion, that's the important part so that gets declared, the fact that the friend is going to come or not is not the important bit here so it isn't declared it's just put in the subjunctive mood - Kiwi-Girl, Jan 15, 2012