Allow your "Top Ten All-Time Users" to edit ...
after the title of User Flashcard Sets a:
"Verified by (Swampy, Stadt, Fidalgo, ... ) only these errors: ... or no errors"
If there are too many errors or you just don't like the flashcards just write Nothing. You don't want to alienate people.
Many of these All-Time Users read these flashcards anyway.
SpanishDict cannot guarantee the accuracy of user-created flashcards. Let them if they want to. Some of these sets are pretty good.
It would help me (New User) and probably many others decide whether or not they want to study these flashcards.
What do you think SpanishDict?
15 Answers
You don't speak for SpanishDict you should praise the "Top Ten" for all their contributions
I really do not want to get involved in this, but since my name is mentioned, I will make several comments.
(1) In effect, Yesero does speak for this site, he has an “admin” after his name.
(2) There is no reason to thank the high flashcard users of the site, instead we should (and often do) thank the site for providing plenty of flashcards for us to do. Doing other peoples flashcards does not do anything that helps anyone at the site, the high point users you note are users, not creators of the flashcards, and are not fixing them either.
(3) Every flashcard set I do, I know there may be errors, very few are entirely error free, but I do them for reinforcement more than new learning, and if there are any doubts, I check them in the dictionary.
(4) I am not sure actually how many people really could be qualified to alter other people’s flashcards given the fact that those of us doing them are not the most advanced members, the most advanced members generally do not need to do them, they learn in other ways. Add the complexity of regional variation (look at the cacahuete vs. cacahuate vs. maní thread, or prior battles between Americans and English people as to whether it is drunk driving or drink driving) and who knows.
(5) I would hate to lose the user generated flashcards, they are one of the things that make this site great, and if we interfere with that it will be a loss. And no one could review the huge number generated each day.
(6) The one possibility I could see would be to have 2 separate categories- Site approved, reviewed ones certified error free (which we sort of have now with the lesson associated ones, but could broaden it to additional ones not associated with lessons), and user generated ones that are not guaranteed (unchanged from now).
Hi Miamidave
Many people spent a great deal of time checking flashcards a couple of years ago.
It would take a lot longer now to "approve" all the flashcards that you can see.
It would be impractical to do it again.
Anyone using a set that is not correct should PM the creator and suggest a correction.
It keeps all users "on their toes" to know that the sets may not be 100% correct.
Well Dave, ten isn't much of an army for a task like this and even if it were who is to say they want or need the extra work. Personally, I think the system is fine as it is.
I think it's a great idea - find me an army of expert volunteers. With an average of 25 words per set, and thousands of card sets, it will only take a few thousand man-hours to review.
Not long ago, we had a problem getting the Phrasebook updated. It's moderated, and when the submission count got to about 5,000, and a huge backlog of entries waiting for review and approval, a months-long community effort was launched here to close the gap. One phrasebook entry takes less time to review than one flashcard set, I think.
I understand your frustration at using flashcards that may have errors. When I find a set that seems valuable and has only one or two errors, I send a PM to the author and request it be fixed. It can't be done another way, at this time.
Whoa ! Yes flashcards can have errors, so can Spanish course teaching books, You MUST realize that Spanish has as many variations as there are Spanish speaking countries. The flashcards represent many things, daily phrases , regional phrases, names of things ,actions and so much more the list is endless. It is up to you -the student to make your research or ask a question if there is something you see that is not correct or you do not understand.
All of this work is Voluntary, you the individual must appreciate ,judge and research if you need to.Research is what a student does.
Hi everyone. It is true that many of the top ten users do make a lot of flashcards also. Check them out sometime. If you find a mistake, please send us a PM, because we would like to be as accurate as possible. And I am sure that I speak for the other high volume flashcard users when I say that we do the same when we see a set with errors. I always tell a person how to edit their set and how to fix their mistakes.
If you make your own sets, you can endeavor to be as accurate as possible by checking and double checking the words in the dictionary. Be especially careful with accent marks. When you finish your set, run through it once to check it for accuracy.
I found the thread where I am thanking those who did that gigantic work, as you can see , Ian, samdie, guillermo and Quentin are still around and helping on the site
You have an army the
"Top Ten"
People come here to practise , not to work, except me of course, sigh, jeje
Anyway, I am sorry, I tried to get the edit function at the beginning of the site, it took us weeks to revise the existing flashcard sets, with the help of Ian, Samdie for example and a lot of others, it was a gigantic task.
then the new site was launched, alas, all our work gone with the wind..
:::sigh:::
this is not possible to achieve, sorry, but unless somebody comes up with a clever idea....
The relatively high number of errors here is one reason why I often use the flashcards at other websites. A good idea would be to allow users with a minimum number of learning or reputation points to click a button next to any given flashcard set to certify it as error free. Then when users are deciding which flashcard sets they want to use they can see if a given set has been certified by other users and how many times it has been certified as error free. There could also be a flag button by each flashcard set allowing users to flag errors. I don't think this would be too hard to implement and it would greatly improve the reliability of the flashcard sets for the users.
I liked the original system that we had on flashcard sets. Users could leave comments below the sets. If you left a comment saying that a word was incorrect, it rarely was fixed, but, at least, the next user could see the comment That way regional usage comments could be left or even erroneous corrections without altering the original set. Even if you read an erroneous correction, it would alert the user to find out which of the two is correct.
One drawback of leaving comments is that people began to post appreciation or congratulatory/kudos comments (as we do on the Answers section) which makes it difficult to sift through to find correction comments. So you need to ban comments that say Great set; Thanks a million; etc. leaving that to the Favoring option.
A good idea would be to allow users with a minimum number of learning or reputation points to click a button next to any given flashcard set to certify it as error free.
This is not only a good idea but an excellent one.
I have called the attention of the creators of this site to the thread, it is a good thread, mind you, we are just trying to see how this could work.
The relatively high number of errors here is one reason why I often use the flashcards at other websites.
This is a crying shame and should not happen, we will see what can be done
SpanishDict's Marianne has a Great set of flashcards. I have read them All. No errors. Nice words to learn.
pero ... jajaja ... Not any words I find interesting or difficult and I'm just learning.
Opps!
¡Me meto la pata!
Thanks Marianne for your Flashcards they will help a lot of people! They are basic and good.
Make a set that is real difficult for me. I need a spanking (I'm a Bad Boy!) jajaja
un abrazo Dave
I have read User Flashcard sets with "0" Favorites that are 100x better than ones with a "1,000 Favorites"
the difference between User and your Flashcards. The professional or native speakers at SpanishDict is you get everything right. ... Estoy de acuerdo. ... pero ... can't see the forest from the trees like Users (always a But)
Users can see the forest (spanish language) and are afraid! We know what is hard to learn. A native speaker ... what is hard in spanish? or in your language or mine english
"I don't know" everything is easy. Exactamente!
You have an army the
"Top Ten"
