Do you have another hat = de más?

Question

Never heard this construction. It's from Walking Dead, and the big time shows are usually dubbed in Spain I think.

No subs of course so I just THINK he meant, do you have another hat>?

¿Tienes otra gorra?

but he said

¿Tienes una gorra de más?

Does that mean the same thing?

Awesome show. - Beatrice-Codder, Nov 29, 2011

Great question! - --Mariana--, Nov 30, 2011

Answer 1

¿Tienes una gorra de más? Do you have a spare / an extra hat?

Ok so it's not exactly the same as otra gorra because he is actually asking for a hat with de más. That's pretty cool. - jeezzle, Nov 29, 2011

Yes he is asking for "otra gorra", but he is using a different format. Exactly the same difference between another / an extra one. - Gekkosan, Nov 29, 2011

Yeah but does it mean, more to ask for it then otra? Because if I said, tienes otra gorra, would that mean can I borrow one? Or does una gorra de más more mean borrow, or are they just really the same when it comes to that? Gracias. - jeezzle, Nov 29, 2011

Answer 2

First of all, why isn't it just demás (one word).

This could well be one of those interesting semantic differentiations. Certainly beyond my area of expertise. I would have been willing to say that it does not make any difference, but a quick check with the DRAE would appear to indicate that "demás" has a somewhat different meaning:

demás. (Del lat. de magis). 1. adj. U. precedido de los artículos lo, la, los, las, con el sentido de 'lo otro, la otra, los otros o los restantes, las otras'. LO, LA, LOS, LAS demás. U. t. en pl. sin art. Juan y demás compañeros. 2. adj. Otras personas o cosas. Estaban Antonio Y demás. Había libros, cuadernos Y demás. 3. adv. c. además. por ~. 1. loc. adv. En vano, inútilmente. 2. loc. adv. excesivamente. por lo ~. 1. loc. adv. Por lo que hace relación a otras consideraciones. He querido probarle que no se conduce como debe; por lo demás, yo no estoy enojado con él.

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Answer 3

First of all, why isn't it just demás (one word).

I was taught this construction in exactly this context, it doesn't seem unusual. You come to class and forgot your pencil. The guy sitting next to you has one, but you want to borrow a pencil, not the one he's using.

¿Tienes una lápiz demás?

I think of it as

Do you have an extra pencil (that I could borrow?)

Answer 4

Yeah but does it mean, more to ask for it then otra? Because if I said, tienes otra gorra, would that mean can I borrow one? Or does una gorra de más more mean borrow, or are they just really the same when it comes to that? Gracias. - jeezzle

I'd say it is less likely that "¿tienes una gorra de más?" can be interpreted as anything other than "I want to borrow one".

Tienes otra gorra could mean that I think the one you're wearing right now is too ugly, too messy, or inappropriate for the occasion. Get another one, for goodness sake!

¿Tienes una gorra de más? means do you have more than enough? Do you need to return one? Can I borrow one? Do you want to donate one for charity?

Answer 5

i agree with gekkosan