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Can I have some more tea?

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Which of these is correct?

Can I have some more tea?

Can I have any more tea?

I don't know which of them I have to place in the sentence.

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updated Nov 22, 2011
edited by nila45
posted by nila45
You can also say, "Can I have more tea?" - lorenzo9, Nov 21, 2011
"Could I have (some) more tea" sounds better - less direct. - ian-hill, Nov 21, 2011

14 Answers

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Nila, cualquier oferta o sugerencia, con some.

Would you like some tea? Can I have some tea?

También dicen: cuando esperas que la respuesta sea afirmativa...

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by 00494d19
Yes, if the reply was NO, you would expect to hear a reason like "Sorry, there isn't any more tea." - 0074b507, Nov 21, 2011
Claro, entonces a lo mejor es por eso que están diciendo en el hilo que pueden ser cualquiera de las dos. Es decir, "some" suena más cortes. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
"Some" suena más cortés porque evidencia que se trata de una oferta o sugerencia. Además si espero que la respuesta sea afirmativa sigue siendo más oferta que pregunta. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
Yes, and the actual offer is Would you like some more tea? - 0074b507, Nov 21, 2011
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I would like to build up a bit on the answers given by Qfreed and Aaspriha, since I would also recommend "may".

Many years ago, when I was still struggling with English, I had the lesson firmly driven that for those who care to use the language properly, there is clearly a difference between "may" and "can", beyond and above the issue of politeness.

"Can" refers to the capacity to do something, regardless of whether one has permission or not.

"May" indicates dispensation to do something.

For example, I have been informed that I may address the Emperor of Japan, if he happens to visit my block. Unfortunately I can't, because I do not speak Japanese, and he doesn't speak Spanish.

Now, let's suppose that Nila is sitting as an honored guest of said Emperor, partaking of a Tea Ceremony being performed specially for her.

Can she grab the teapot and serve herself some tea? Yes she can. She's perfectly able, and the teapot is within reach. However, may she, under those circumstances, grab the teapot and serve herself some tea? Absolutely not! It would be embarrassingly rude, and she would never be invited for tea with the Emperor ever again!

May she gracefully accept another cup if offered by the Tea Mistress? Yes she may.

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by Gekkosan
Great story but I think 'may'often is oldfashioned nowadays. Correct, but oldfashioned. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
Obviously, with the Emperor, go for correctness! But in my modest house you can say 'can''. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
Sorry?. Was I missing something?. Me?. With the emperor of Japan?. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
Anyway, I can grab the teapot but I musn't do that. You know, protocol is everything on these situations. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
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Do you know the difference between any more and anymore?

Yes, "anymore" is when you don't do a thing anymore.

Well, it is a way to explain this.

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by nila45
A very good way. - 0074b507, Nov 21, 2011
Yes, anymore relates to time. Good example. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
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Can (May to be more polite) I have some tea?

May I have more tea?

Any more would be used in sentences like Is there any more tea?

Do you know the difference between any more and anymore?

updated Nov 21, 2011
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
You can not say "can I have some any tea." That is simply incorrect. I don't know why you would think that is possible from my point of view. - fatchocobo, Nov 21, 2011
Sorry, it has been a mistake. I was trying to say another thing. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
Sorry, it was a mistake. I was trying to say something else. - lorenzo9, Nov 21, 2011
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I must admit I prefer to use may when it is appropriate. probably because I had it drummed into me by my father.

When I was a child we had to ask to leave the table if we finished eating before everyone else. If I asked 'Can I leave the table? ' the answer was always 'Yes you can but you may not, stay there' If I asked more correctly 'May I leave the table? ' I was allowed to leave. It is one of the very few times I can remember my father correcting me about anything and really he was just teasing.

It really is a minor point though, and there are far more important things for learners to worry about.

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by MaryMcc
True - but it is "nice" to hear the "correct" usages. - ian-hill, Nov 21, 2011
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May I have some more tea -- would be more perfect when you have had a cup of tea and liked it so much that you want to have one more. "May" is always more polite and better than "Can" when requesting for some thing or for permission. Good progress! Welcome to the forum!!

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by aaspriha
Hola - "perfect" is an absolute so nothing can be "more perfect" :)) - ian-hill, Nov 21, 2011
Yes, you are welcome too. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
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Can I have some tea?

Have you got any tea?

I think I would use "some" for the first sentence and "any" for the second one.

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by nila45
Correct. - lorenzo9, Nov 21, 2011
Very good, nila. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
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Have you got some tea for me?

Ves, así cambiaría la cosawink

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by 00494d19
Of course Heidita, the kettle is always on the boil for you. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
Vaya que si cambiaría la cosa. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
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Hi Nila

Some and any are quantifiers.

have a look here for any and some

SOME We use "some" in positive sentences.

We use some for both countable and uncountable nouns. Example: I have some friends.

ANY We use "any" in negative sentences or questions.

We use any for both countable and uncountable nouns. Example: Do you have any cheese? - He doesn't have any friends in Chicago.

updated Nov 21, 2011
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
Your link is fantastic. But it is not necessary to explain everything about negative and positive sentences. That is a beginner level. - nila45, Nov 21, 2011
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Both of them are correct but the first one sounds a bit better to me.

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by fatchocobo
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Dear Lizard:

We won't fall out over this, it is a totally minor point. I asked my husband, the Englishman , at suppertime. He agrees with me that may is nowadays only used when you want to be extremely polite. He says he uses it on occassions, because he works as a salesman and needs to infiltrate houses at tea-time! We are agreed that, in England, can I have a cup of tea, new shoes, or whatever, is normal usage, nowadays. If I wanted a new man I might ask my husband May I take a lover? as this would be a request where I really needed to be very polite indeed. ****Might I have cup of tea** is very, very mousy and indicates that you half expect them to say no! It can be used, of course.
So really, all of them will work. It's not worth spending sleepless nights over, that's for sure. When I ask my husband's help : I say: Could you help me with this linguistic problem, please?

updated Nov 22, 2011
posted by annierats
can - could - may - might / are all Modals and as such do not exist in Spanish - and are often interchanged. - ian-hill, Nov 21, 2011
I did say that the usage is accepted. I am not saying it is incorrect. And usage and custom definitely change over time. That does not change the fact that there is a preferred usage, which you may (see?) accept or dismiss, as you will. - Gekkosan, Nov 21, 2011
I don't mind sounding a bit old fashioned: I like playing with the language, and if I learn a word that meanst *exactly* what I want to convey, why not use it? - Gekkosan, Nov 21, 2011
Indeed gekkosan, it's nothing to squabble over, just a slight change with modern times, I think. No pasa nada. - annierats, Nov 22, 2011
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Sez Annierats:

Great story but I think 'may'often is oldfashioned nowadays. Correct, but oldfashioned. - annierats 4 hrs ago flag Obviously, with the Emperor, go for correctness! But in my modest house you can say 'can''. - annierats 4 hrs ago flag

This usage of "can" is indeed accepted. Nevertheless, my Oxford American Dictionary has the following to say on the subject:

Can. usage: Is there any difference between can and may when used to request or express permission, as in may I ask you a few questions? or can I ask you a few questions? Many people feel that can should be reserved for expressions denoting capability, as in can you swim?, rather than for those relating to permission. May is, generally speaking, a politer and more formal way of asking for something, and is the better choice in more formal contexts. See also usage at may1.

May. usage: Traditionalists insist that one should distinguish between may (present tense) and might (past tense) in expressing possibility: I may have some dessert after dinner if I'm still hungry | I might have known that the highway would be closed because of the storm. In casual use, though, may and might are generally interchangeable: they might take a vacation next month | he may have called earlier, but the answering machine was but the answering machine was broken.

updated Nov 21, 2011
edited by Gekkosan
posted by Gekkosan
My husband, a born and bred true Englsihman suggests ' could' as a compromise. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
Yes "could" makes the question more "polite" - ian-hill, Nov 21, 2011
Ah, but "could" is a form of "can". - Gekkosan, Nov 21, 2011
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What about: "have you got some envelopes" or "have you got any envelopes"?

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by nila45
any - lorenzo9, Nov 21, 2011
Do you have?...have you any?...have got.... is substandard English - 0074b507, Nov 21, 2011
Excuse me...according to this: http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t5488.htm Have got is British English - 0074b507, Nov 21, 2011
It's also American English. - lorenzo9, Nov 21, 2011
Any is correct but some is used quite a lot too. British and American would be the same. - annierats, Nov 21, 2011
"have got" is used more in Britain than in the USA - ian-hill, Nov 21, 2011
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Have you got any more tea?

Yes, we have plenty of tea left in the pot.

In that case, could I have some more , please?

or, Please, could I have another cup of tea?

I hope these examples might be of some help to you, I haven't really got any more suggestions just now because I'm short of time.

updated Nov 21, 2011
posted by annierats