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Léete el comentario numero 4

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So can you just tack on the pronoun to any old verb then?

I'm talking about verbs that aren't reflexive or pronominal by default.

I do it with venir (vente aquí)

and mirar (miratelo)

on occasion. But it sounds so odd with leer. Seems like "fijate el comentario" would work better. They are arguing about what movie to watch and if it works or not.

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updated Sep 29, 2011
posted by jeezzle

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So if I said Cómete - I'd understand it as "eat it all" Cómetelo would sound good to me. "Juégate" without context or anything sounds like "play with yourself" which of course sounds bad in English but I just don't get it in Spanish. Juégate con el perro? Play with the dog? What purpose does that te serve? YOU play with it? I understand "Léete el comentario" like _ HEY, read it man.

What about limpiate la mesa, different much limpia la mesa how? does it mean you clean it and not me? I know "matame mi esposa, matamela" = kill my wife for me. But these seem a bit different. Léeme el libro, read me the book. Léeme el libro, read the book for me, that one I even don't get that's why, Léete and all the ones you listed are a bit off to me, aside from the one's I actually hear once in awhile like "vente" and "mirate".

That's not really how this works. It is more of a form used to suggest or recommend that you do something.

For example: "juégate el 25 en la lotería, ese número está caliente" - I recommend that you play number 25 in the lotto - that number's hot. Never "juégate con el perro" - that doesn't make sense.

Cómete ese tamal: do eat that tamal. Now here we have several ramifications, depending on context. Eg. Mother to child: Imperative - Eat the darned thing already!

Friend to buddy: go ahead and eat it, it's good and I don't want it.

Someone mad at someone else, could use a similar expression in a vindictive way, to mean something along the lines: "eat your just dessets, bub!".

Léete el comentario: Go ahead and read it, you'll find it interesting / useful / informative..

Mátate ese capricho: oh for goodness sake, why don't you kill that silly whim already and be done with it!

Mírate nomás a esa jeva! - willya look at that chick!!

Límpiate esa mesa sounds plain weird. But : "límpiate la boca" - straight imperative for clean your mouth.

So in short, it is a somewhat odd use of the imperative, which under some circumstances acts as a regular imperative, and in others more like a recommendation.

updated Sep 29, 2011
posted by Gekkosan
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You can use it. Whether it sounds odd or not depends, I reckon, on regional use and custom.

I wouldn't say "míratelo", but I have used "mírate (esto)".

Cómete...

Juégate...

Límpiate....

Considérate...

Sure, it works.

updated Sep 28, 2011
posted by Gekkosan
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You are talking about the imperative form of any old verb here. You are supposed to put the indirect and object pronouns at the end, no? And if the verb is reflexive, the reflexive pronoun, too.

Vete.

Cálmate.

Dámelo.

updated Sep 28, 2011
posted by Jeremias
That's not what I'm talking about. Vete and Cálmate and Dámelo are quite different than Léete, Cómete, Juégate, Límpiate. The imperative form of these generally do NOT include or need any pronoun, it's just for emphasis or to slightly change the meani - jeezzle, Sep 28, 2011
Sorry Jeezzle. I get it. - Jeremias, Sep 28, 2011
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I don't know if there's a rule or something. That sentence sounds very mexican to me, or from other country wich is not the mine. But when you say "Juégate con el perro", it doesn't make sence to me.

I was talking with a friend of mine about this and he says that those sentences are not correct, but I don't know, maybe will be better that a personas who knows about rules ask your question.

updated Sep 29, 2011
posted by ale_rd
Where are you from? - jeezzle, Sep 28, 2011
I'm from Argentina - ale_rd, Sep 29, 2011
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@ Gekko.

So if I said Cómete - I'd understand it as "eat it all" Cómetelo would sound good to me. "Juégate" without context or anything sounds like "play with yourself" which of course sounds bad in English but I just don't get it in Spanish. Juégate con el perro? Play with the dog? What purpose does that te serve? YOU play with it? I understand "Léete el comentario" like _ HEY, read it man.

What about limpiate la mesa, different much limpia la mesa how? does it mean you clean it and not me? I know "matame mi esposa, matamela" = kill my wife for me. But these seem a bit different. Léeme el libro, read me the book. Léeme el libro, read the book for me, that one I even don't get that's why, Léete and all the ones you listed are a bit off to me, aside from the one's I actually hear once in awhile like "vente" and "mirate".

updated Sep 28, 2011
posted by jeezzle
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Ok, I'm gonna review this Gekko. At this point I think the ones I tend to use are just from hearing and not from knowing (and honestly I do think that is the best way to use the language most of the time, monkey see monkey do) but let me ask this about the recommendation: Let's say me and you are in a room, there's a dog coming towards us with a big growl and dripping saliva and looks hungry. But in the corner I see a dog's ball, so I say nudging you ""juégate con el perro"..... Does that work? Gracias.

updated Sep 29, 2011
posted by jeezzle
No, that does not work. You'd say something like "¿Por qué no vas y juegas con el perro para distraerlo, eh? - nudge-nudge" - Gekkosan, Sep 29, 2011