Why not an English chatroom ?

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As much as I know Spanish dict community does its best to provide services for both Spanish and English learners and I really appreciate it that you can find dozens of rare stuff in one single website FREE OF CHARGE, but there's something remained within my heart annoying me for a long time. I've been spending most of my time on this site in the English-Spanish Chatroom by now and I dare say I saw numerous people who intended to learn English or to master their skills in this language but just left the place disappointedly after a while as they don't understand a word of Spanish or just get tired after several abortive tries to attract natives' attention. I'm here to say not all the people who registered on this web-site and are looking forward to learn English know Spanish for a language exchange. Why just force them to stop visiting this unique web-site while it is so easy and cheap to make another chatroom particularly for English, even a reasonable way to gradually make them fond of the main language on this site, just like me.

Sorry to talk that much. Couldn't resist it not to say anything. I hope those who should will notice it

Regards.

Welcome to the forum! - pesta, Sep 11, 2011

Thanks :) - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

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Answer 1

The chatroom is for language exchange. It needs learners of both languages.

I actually feel like there are way more resources here to learn English than learn Spanish just because every single time someone asks a question in Spanish about English we all race to answer it and there are 4 or 5 different accurate answers, where as if you ask a question about Spanish it takes a while before it is answered and you sometimes have to wait for one of the few native speakers to see it.

Not to mention the fact that 90% of us write almost everything we write here in English, me included.

I think the chatroom will be empty most of the time, and when there are people in it there will still be more English speakers than Spanish speakers so you will have lots of opportunities to practise.

If you make a chatroom for learning English it will be filled with Spanish people and the one for learning Spanish will be filled with English people and ne'er the twain shall meet! (The two will never meet).

Very good. Language segregation doesn't help anyone. - pesta, Sep 12, 2011

Before voting please read my response to it too. It is labeled by Dear Mr rabbitwho. I also apologize before hand as I didn't know she is female. - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

Answer 2

I think it's great that you have new ideas to propose to moderators . The last thing that people here want to do is to ignore your, and everybody else's, suggestions. But I guess that it's not that easy for an administrator to answer to requests, saying yes or no, so easily and quickly! These decisions are taken after careful consideration and planning.

So, the best thing you can do, if you haven't done it already, is to send your suggestion at the link that pesta posted the other day.

Thanks for the post ianta deeply :). Oh I already did that but they responded me so raw so then I continued posting on this thread to make everything clear. :) - nepantess, Sep 13, 2011

Answer 3

I agree! I think it would be a good idea to make another chatroom, or even a couple if there needed to be more, to promote a more organized environment. I haven't visited the chatroom that many times yet, but from what I've seen there's good things going on, it's just too confusing sometimes because people are having separate conversations in sometimes separate languages at the same time.

Anyways yeah, I support working on this idea!

edit: hearing what other people have been saying, I'm also pretty happy with the one chatroom that there is right now, at least for the time being

Gracias :) - nepantess, Sep 11, 2011

Answer 4

You could send your suggestion to the website owners at

http://www.spanishdict.com/feedback

I like your suggestion. I'm not so sure any more...

Thanks for the help. I didn't really know where to start from :) - nepantess, Sep 11, 2011

Please read my response. let's figure this out together :) - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

Answer 5

Thanks everyone for ignoring, . . . Again. I really expected much more. Is it that hard to say yes or no ? Don't know what to say really. Sorry for me to humiliate myself. Gracias

Regards

Now you´re just being rude. I´m starting to wonder if we aren´t being trolled. - rabbitwho, Sep 13, 2011

Interestante! I'm being ignored all the time and I'm also the rude one why ? because I'm asking the mostly respeceted moderetors to consider more equipment for non-spanish speakers Pretty reasonable - nepantess, Sep 13, 2011

You are not being ignored, you got 4 responses to your thread which is about average for this section. - rabbitwho, Sep 14, 2011

Every thread on the forum gets more views than responses, this is because there are something like 200,000 SpanishDict users, only a small portion of whom actually post on the forum. - rabbitwho, Sep 14, 2011

And it is rude to repeat yourself over and over, beg for attention and then get angry when your demands are not met. - rabbitwho, Sep 14, 2011

I am going to feed your persecution complex by ignoring this thread in the future. - rabbitwho, Sep 14, 2011

I had mentioned everything clearly and thoroughly in my very first post. I didn't even think I have to repeat it again and again when I posted the initial qustion text - nepantess, Sep 14, 2011

Why ? because I thought I'm dealing with reasonable exceptionable people and It was such a waste of time to do my best in order to add something usefull to this website - nepantess, Sep 14, 2011

Arrogance and inflexibility toward people's not-so-approving ideas is rushing out of you. That's why I repeated my request very respectfully again and again - nepantess, Sep 14, 2011

and that's what I call rudeness. Because you made me to do so if not clear! - nepantess, Sep 14, 2011

The other night when I realized I'm just wasting my time to give you the value you don't really deserve I didn't really care about the chatroom anymore or actually I better say I don't really care about you. - nepantess, Sep 14, 2011

I mentioned it to let you know there's no persecution existing not now and never before, you're not that important. :) - nepantess, Sep 14, 2011

Answer 6

Dear Mr Rabbitwho

I believe you didn't get my point thoroughly or I rather say it's more of a misunderstanding. I agree when you say the existing chatroom is merely for language exchange, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. I've been in the chatroom a hundred times and I've seen many people who just left the place because they couldn't find anyone for a language exchange. Why? Because they actually don't know Spanish. Plus I do accept that it's an English-Spanish chatroom, but is it fairly distributed ? Almost all of the American natives signing into the chatroom are looking for Spanish speakers. It's not the same about Spanish speakers though, I mean a high percentage of them can't carry on a conversation in English or don't even want to speak English. and so what's the result ? You stay signed in for about an hour or so and you don't hear more than 10 minutes of English words. Yes, there are way more resources to study English through out the answers forum but can people there instant message each other? I'm not talking about resources, I'm talking about a place where NONE-SPANISH people can easily CHAT in English. and that doesn't mean what you said, because the original chatroom can stay the way it is where Spanish speakers and English speakers exchange their language. And also another room where is called the global chatroom where people form other countries can actually practice their skills in English or even do a language exchange. So I disagree you when you say English speakers who intend to learn Spanish and vice versa would never meet. And if it is not done, those who don't know Spanish or don't want to learn it at the moment actually are thrown out. Personally I don't really want to lose such a friendly and rich environment but as long as it's only possible for me to master my English rather than learning other languages right now I have to forget about it, if that is what the respected owners of the site pursuing.

I can't believe I talked that much. :D

Regards

I hope this will make you more sure Mr Pesta :) - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

Oh, I'm really sorry to call you Mr rabbitwho I swear I didn't notice. :-s - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

Do you really think an English speaker who isn't there to learn Spanish would be thrown out? Or a Spanish speaker who didn't want to learn English! Oh such a creature I would love to find! I 'd have no excuse then. - rabbitwho, Sep 12, 2011

Anyway it's okay I'll just have to girl it up a bit. ;x We are able send PMs here on the forum and exchange IDs for skype or MSN etc. But any ideas you have to make it even easier are great. - rabbitwho, Sep 12, 2011

lol There are always English speakers (native Americans mostly) awaiting Spanish speakers for them to learn English in a fair language exchange. - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

And if a hispano doesn't really want to learn English what's their business here ? as they can speak spanish and that's enough for them lol - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

Plus skype and msn is are ok but if you want to private chat which has much less fun than a group chat with regulars in a language learning web-site :) - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

You can do group chats with skype. You really aren't making a lot of sense, I don't think you are familiar enough with how this site works, you're asking for things that we already have. - rabbitwho, Sep 13, 2011

It has been explained that the things you are requesting already exist. You are new to this forum, why not stick around and get to know it before asking us to implement existing features and complaining that things should be the way they already are. - rabbitwho, Sep 13, 2011

No the problem isn't really caused by me the problem is that when you don't want to do somthing you don't understand it whether it is mentioned comprehensively in one single post or even extended for an entire thread! - nepantess, Sep 13, 2011

what do you mean that you already posses it where's the English only chatroom ? guide me please - nepantess, Sep 13, 2011

We do not need an English only chatroom. There is already a chatroom for people who are learning English. They do not need to speak Spanish. - rabbitwho, Sep 14, 2011

Answer 7

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Three days passes now since I started this topic. A lot of people visited the page dedicated to my request without any word. Several prominent well-known and famous persons also left comments which had obvious contrast initially and eventually which I still don't know why. After all this now I DO want a clear answer. YES or NO? If yes, OK reasonable. But if no WHY?. Guess I didn't leave any part obscure already. If you still doubt it beg you to waste a little bit of your precious time and read the entire posts. I don't know if I'm so stupid or not though I don't understand why there can't be ANOTHER ENGLISH-ONLY chatroom for non-Spanish speakers who can't exchange Spanish for English in the existing chatroom. This great site claims to accept both Spanish and English learners from all over the world. Please respond to me. I don't want to lose such a perfect chance to be with all the unique members of Spanish-dict and THAT's why I keep on posting on the same thread again and again. I only beg you to let me know if it is possible or not tonight. If not I won't repeat my request and leave until the day I'm a full-time Spanish learner and I'm pretty sure I won't go anywhere else as everyone prefers the most defectless.

How can we have another English only chatroom when we haven't got one already... - rabbitwho, Sep 13, 2011

Answer 8

Just take a look at this post: If I were a boy/girl....Si fuere hombre/mujer.... Only hispanos are authorized to quote in English, others have to post ... JUST IN SPANISH. So this web-site is actually an Spanish learning website and learning English is only limited to hispanos, right ?

There are loads and loads of people here learning Spanish for whom English is not their first language. You can write in whichever of the two languages you are learning. - rabbitwho, Sep 12, 2011

If you are asking that this site become one where you can learn dozens of different languages.. I don't see any point, there are lots of sites like that already. - rabbitwho, Sep 12, 2011

I agree but it's not about other languages as I didn't name any other languages except Spanish and English - nepantess, Sep 12, 2011

Nepantess, nobody suggested this site is for learning dozens of languages. It's about people whose first language is any one of dozens, learning either Spanish or English. - pesta, Sep 12, 2011

Why do you keep on saying that ? Did I ever mention to establish a multilanguage website? I said and I say again I'm suggesting an English chatroom for non-Spanish speakers this way you're limiting English learners to hispanos. I hope I made it clear - nepantess, Sep 13, 2011

Answer 9

I'm asking Everyone in this community to contribute in this topic. It's a very important issue to let thousands of more people into the Spanish-dict. Please leave a comment. Don't just visit and go.