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How 9/11 Triggered America's Decline

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Bush's Tragic Legacy

How 9/11 Triggered America's Decline

A Commentary by Gregor Peter Schmitz in Washington

The events of Sept. 11, 2001 led to a wave of solidarity with the US. But the superpower has lost that goodwill over the course of the wars it subsequently waged. Now America is mainly seen not as the victim of terrorism, but as a perpetrator of violence itself.

The smoke was still rising from the rubble of the World Trade Center when Richard Armitage, at the time the US deputy secretary of state, spoke in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. "History begins today," he said.

In the coming decade, Armitage would turn out to be right -- except the politician could not have foreseen how tragic the history would be following the epochal event.

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updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by SpanishPal
The article doesn't express my opinions. I found it interesting and shocking at many levels. I thought it's worth sharing. - SpanishPal, Sep 10, 2011
It was worth sharing and thank you for doing so , we cannot ignore issues and sweep them under the carpet we have to face them full on and talk them through . - ray76, Sep 11, 2011
This a difficult one, SpanishPal. - cogumela, Sep 11, 2011

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That is a very simplistic attitude , if it was correct then please tell me why

Australia is doing amazingly well and yet we have been , and are in all the

conflicts that the US is in we have the same trading problems, and the same

attitudes towards helping the world , perhaps the trouble is that too many people

are looking at what is wrong and are forgetting all the great things that are right

with the U S A . America became the great nation that it is through the drive and

positive "can do " attitude of the people , engender that feeling and stop bemoaning

a fate which is only imaginary .

Stop saying what is wrong , and start doing what is right .

updated Sep 11, 2011
edited by ray76
posted by ray76
Not to metion earning money the old fashioned way. We can't dismiss the role that corruption in business played in the economic downturn. - LaloLoco, Sep 10, 2011
I am inclined to agree , we have allowed Baks and financial institutions too much slack , there should be more regulation of all financial institutions. - ray76, Sep 10, 2011
Corruption and poor planning is what caused it in Ireland. The banks were giving out unsecured loans of millions of euro to builders. There was absolutely no need for it, it's frustrating. - rabbitwho, Sep 11, 2011
If one person does something stupid and gets rich from it everyone copies without thinking about the consequenses and you end up with a pyramid scheme! Ufff! - rabbitwho, Sep 11, 2011
I have a married daughter and family still in Ireland , and what happened there was criminal. - ray76, Sep 11, 2011
After watching the ceremony at "Ground Zero " am deeply moved and disturbed to my core , my heart is with all the people who lost loved ones . - ray76, Sep 11, 2011
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Amykay

Enough with all of the America hating already!

Did you read the article thoroughly and objectively, Amy??

If there was a trace of hate there, I wouldn't post it.

I believe it's a very important outsider's perspective and an eye-opener that every American and every citizen of the world could use to save mankind any more hate and wars.

Please read it again, I don't think the writer is happy about what's been happening to the USA or rather what the USA has been doing to itself and the rest of the world.

When you're big, you have to be more responsible. When a superpower makes a mistake the whole world suffers. The global financial crisis is a living proof.

updated Sep 11, 2011
edited by SpanishPal
posted by SpanishPal
I wouldn't call it hatred. I would call it history. A thoughtful perspective. - Jeremias, Sep 10, 2011
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updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by LaloLoco
Well said Lalo. - Yeser007, Sep 10, 2011
Sí, me gusta mucho :) - EL_MAG0, Sep 11, 2011
A mí también me encanta esta imagen y lo que representa. :) - galsally, Sep 11, 2011
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Throughout history the "dominant power" and / or "empire" has always eventually been disliked - even hated.

Egypt

Rome

Huns

Alexander the Great

Britain

USSR

Napoleon

Nazis

Incas

Just add your own favourite.

This is for Ray - West Grinstead

Note:

The village should not be confused with the much larger town of East Grinstead which lies 17.5 miles (28 km) to the north-east.

updated Sep 11, 2011
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
When i was last in "The tea house of the AugUst goon " I heard disparaging remarks about " East Grinstead " - ray76, Sep 10, 2011
Arte they true or is this just Stripling rivalry ? - ray76, Sep 10, 2011
Well Ray, East Grinstead has always had a bad reputation - now West Grinstead is another matter. - ian-hill, Sep 10, 2011
In my grumble opinion anything East of Putney is dastardly distasteful and downright demoralising . - ray76, Sep 10, 2011
:) - ian-hill, Sep 11, 2011
AND don't forget, each of these great nations have fallen.... - Incógnito, Sep 11, 2011
Even in their wildest dreams East Grinstead would not be considered as a great nation , a collection of nations ,"yes" but great never. - ray76, Sep 11, 2011
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Hoy es un día para conmemorar los innocentes que murieron en 09/11/2001. Fueran de todas partes del mundo, y de todas religiones tambien. Por Favor hoy en día dejen la politica para otra día, y aún mejor, otro sitio de web.

Today is a day to memorialize the innocents who died on 09/11/2001. They came from all over the world, and were of all religions as well. Please for today, leave the political discussion of 9/11 for another day, and better still, for another web site.

updated Sep 11, 2011
edited by 002262dd
posted by 002262dd
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Enough with all of the America hating already!

updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by amykay
Hmmm...this will always exist.... :( - 001a2987, Sep 10, 2011
Yes it's true Chris. - amykay, Sep 10, 2011
An open eyed look at where we're at may imply concern, not hatred. You can't fix a problem without acknowledgment. - LaloLoco, Sep 11, 2011
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This is a very difficult one, I don't think there are any black or white answers to the problem.

One of the consequences of "progress" in the development of the human race is, unfortunately, people have the capability to inflict unimaginable misery.

Going back thousands of years when people used to fight with fists and sticks - yep the bad guy could hurt somebody before he was over powered.....then came bows and arrows, yep the baddies could cause more damage.......ok roll forward past small weapons etc on to today where threat is weapons of mass destruction which could destroy our entire planet.

So what do we do about it? Do we ignore the fact that this technology exists? Do we ignore increasingly devastating acts of terrorism (whatever their political or warped religious motives)?

For me, 9/11 was a massive wake up call, not just for the West but for the whole human race. If I knew the answers I wouldn't be sat here thinking through 'por/para' for the thousandth time lol.

We trust our political leaders to take the correct course of action. All I would say is, in my humble opinion, going in there "all guns a blazin" is not the answer. In Afghanistan and Iraq for example, fighting and war is nothing new to them. All we do when we 'take out' one Taliban fighter is create 10 more. All we have done in Iraq is create a country that is now completely unstable. These places are seen as having puppet governments with the US pulling the strings.

What are the answers? I certainly don't know. Do we trust our political leaders to do the right things and make the correct decisions? Yes, we do. Have all the political decisions made regarding these issues been the correct ones? I'm not so sure.

updated Sep 11, 2011
edited by billygoat
posted by billygoat
Well said, Billy. - cogumela, Sep 11, 2011
We can not force anybody to believe in Love therefore, there is no answer except to do our own part and the more people who chooses to love over hate, the better off we all are, yes, it is that simple. :) - EL_MAG0, Sep 11, 2011
We must be the change we wish to see in the world . "Mahatmas Ghandi. - ray76, Sep 11, 2011
It most certainly is my friend. Unfortunately though, the reality of the human race is not that simplistic. Its not just a case of casting a stone. We can't just stand aside and watch our planet and all upon it, potentially being destroyed. - billygoat, Sep 11, 2011
^^ to amor_y_paz ^^ - billygoat, Sep 11, 2011
Well expressed billyg :) And your comment - "...por/para for the thousandth time." - it's 1001 for me :( - nonombre, Sep 11, 2011
lol Annie, well I've been awake for 1.5 hours now, and I'm on 1002.... so there :P :P - billygoat, Sep 11, 2011
You are right Billygoat, I do not dis-agree, I am simply using the term simple from a slightly different perspective. :) - EL_MAG0, Sep 11, 2011
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alt text I do not choose to hate, infact I believe in love, frindships and unity. I do not agree with everything any government of this world does.

9/11/01 is a day when many people lost there lives and many more lost there loved ones. Bombing Afghanistan did not restore anybodys lives or bring back loved ones.

However, what did trigger 9/11? Well, it certaintly was not love which only leaves hate! Again I do not believe in hate therefore I choose not to hate and I can not accept the beliefs of those who hate. Nor can I defend those who choose to believe in doing murder and I can not advocate the doctrines that promote murder which do infact exist and therefore we have not a choice but to be on a defense.

Sad but true, we must be on a defense unless we allow murderous attacks to continue. We are talking about the loss of life! I am not the author of hate.

But we all can do something to prevent future attacks and that is to spread a little love around, it is contagious.

As far as the economy bad, that is do to human greed. What would be the fix? If we all had love and stopped being bitter and we shared our wealth more openly the economy would get better. Lets spread a little love around. smile

updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by EL_MAG0
I am doing all the loving I can possibly do mate , why do you think I have a big smile on my face all the time . But seriously you are dead right , hatred can only cease by love not by hatred . - ray76, Sep 11, 2011
That is the only answer my friend. Not everybody chooses to Love, therefore we have trouble in the world. But all we can do is share it and promote it. Thanks Ray. - EL_MAG0, Sep 11, 2011
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I am inclined to side with amykay on this one. There are plenty of more appropriate sites than SpanishDict.com to start charged political debates.

updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by ArizonaGlen
thank you, I appreciate your response. - amykay, Sep 10, 2011
¡tienes razón! - 001a2987, Sep 10, 2011
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The decline of the US started around 1970; Dubya just put a few more nails in the coffin.

updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
Empires and dominant powers don't last as long as they used to. - ian-hill, Sep 11, 2011
Future Shock :) - lorenzo9, Sep 11, 2011
More precisely: Reagan's policies. - lazarus1907, Sep 11, 2011
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updated Sep 11, 2011
edited by LaloLoco
posted by LaloLoco
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Please, I would like peace around the world.

Por favor, me gustaría la paz en todo el mundo.

updated Sep 11, 2011
posted by Student_Of_Ingles
And I would like to be able to fly.... - Gocika, Sep 11, 2011
It's on it's way :) Isa 9:7 - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 11, 2011