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Fake footage?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN1XYDNyZYY

Practica tu español con un vídeo grabado en Rusia (o eso creo) con hispanohablantes. ¿Quién crees que miente más?

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updated Jan 3, 2012
posted by lazarus1907

13 Answers

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CNN (International) is a terrible waste of time.

It says it is a 24/7 news channel but ...........I doubt if it is a 1/7 news channel.

It spends most time promoting itself with "commercial" breaks and meaningless weather forecasts etc. etc. It also ends an actual program segment by telling us what they will tell us in the next segment !!!! = time wasting because they have no material to transmit.

I timed a break recently just before "The World Headlines" - it was 2 minutes and 55 seconds - the 3 "highly selective" World Headlines lasted just 55 seconds before yet another "commercial" break.

They "invent" what they call news" example "Backstory" which tells us what their reporters did while collecting some "real" news.Then they invented "Best of Backstory" to use at weekends - and then had the affrontary to invent "Backstory Super Fan"

When a real news story arrives - 9/11 comes to mind or any other such happening (just now Lybia and the hurricane about to "hit" New York" they milk it to death like vultures on a cadaver' and show the same video 100s of times.

If people just had CNN to judge what was really happening in the world they might just as well read a comic.

I could write better stuff than those who write CNN's verbage. They have used the word "beyond" until I am sick of the sound of it. "We go beyond borders" ' Where else should an international news channel go ??

I have never seen a collection of so called reporters with such inflated opinions of themselves.

CNN Español is slightly better.

End of rant - I prefer Deutche Welle - and can't get the BBC here.

updated Aug 27, 2011
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
Good one, Ian! - lazarus1907, Aug 26, 2011
Gracias Lazarus - Me gustaría poder escribir así en español lo más rápidamente - ian-hill, Aug 26, 2011
Nice rant :) - Izanoni1, Aug 26, 2011
Loved every word, but I think you were much, much too kind and gentlemanly. - territurtle, Aug 26, 2011
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What's your take on the film clips? Clearly, those speaking Spanish with backgrounds in Moscow could have been "green screened." I find the locations strange for journalistic interviews.

The location, the footage, and everything looks very suspicious, to put it mildly, but having a multi-billion TV channel with the best anchors (listen to this word) and the best media resources does not mean that it is more credible: it just looks "more professional".

Again: I do not believe what I saw in that video, but I challenge you to get the real footage of those events, get clear videos, go to the place, and compare the footage with the real thing, and then tell me who is right. Are you going to do that? I am not; I can't afford it. That's why I remain sceptical about both sides of the story, and that's why modern media controls the world: because no one can really know the truth without their consent.

But it doesn't hurt to keep this "unlikely" (if that is what you think) possibility as a backup option if new evidence comes up. You never know.

Anyway, it was just to learn Spanish, right?

updated Aug 29, 2011
posted by lazarus1907
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The story of fabricated images is nonsense,...

Wrong? Maybe. Made up? Maybe. But nonsense? Come on! The list of the uncovered media manipulations (that have been admitted by Governments) is huge, and they have gone to greater extents than this in the past. I am not convinced it is true, but compared to what reality has taught me, this is far from being an implausible scenario.

I basically have serious mental reservations about any news in foreign countries (and quite often, even my own), unless someone I personally know has been there and has tell me his or her version of the story, and even then, I like to reach my own conclusions. If the conflict involves military or economic (e.g. petroleum) interests, then I listen, but I do not fully trust any side of the story, because we have been lied to thousands of times! The first victim in a war is always the truth, and we never get to read history as it really happens.

Nonsense? Think about it again.

updated Aug 29, 2011
posted by lazarus1907
Yes, such cynicism I have, too. - webdunce, Aug 27, 2011
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So trust me, it's nonsense.

Again, fabricating news is not difficult for the USA or for the Arabs, so I can't trust you (or anyone)... unless I knew you personally and you could assure me that you saw the whole thing with your own eyes. You will have to forgive me for being so sceptical, but I have reviewed hundreds of old stories using old newspaper library records, and I have seen so many fabricated lies (before the advent of modern media technology) that I can't just take anyone's word (no offence). I have no reason to believe that what has been happening for the last 80 years or so has suddenly vanished and all we get is 100% objective truth. History has been tampered with for millennia. I suggest you read more critical history.

I am not omnipotent (or naïve) enough to be able to tell people with absolute conviction what the reality is like, and I don't consider myself stupid or misinformed, but I am shocked when I see people who seem to be in possession of the ultimate truth about historical events. I never thought that was really possible until now.

Anyway, apart from the provocative and extremist views of the video, I thought that the motivation to understand its context would help your Spanish listening. Really, I'm not being sarcastic.

updated Aug 29, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
;)) - territurtle, Aug 26, 2011
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In my humble opinion (IMHO) I would rate the following TV stations in order of the most lies per broadcast:

(1) CNN (Estados Unidos)

(2) RTN (Moscú, Rusia)

(3) RT

Personally, I watch BBC news.

What's your take on the film clips? Clearly, those speaking Spanish with backgrounds in Moscow could have been "green screened." I find the locations strange for journalistic interviews.

updated Aug 27, 2011
posted by territurtle
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I didn't understand everything but RT stands for Russia Today. It's a state TV which nobody watches.

You know Russia has been against NATO intervention in Libya right from the beginning. The story of fabricated images is nonsense, they're trying to make something out of thing just to hopefully salvage their dwindling viewership and prove the Russian version of the story which says that the popular uprising in Libya is only a US conspiracy.

updated Aug 27, 2011
posted by SpanishPal
Learnt any Spanish? - lazarus1907, Aug 26, 2011
Processing :) - SpanishPal, Aug 26, 2011
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The major news networks in the USA lie as part of doing business, and non-news shows masquerading as news are even worse. The FCC regulations requiring truth in broadcasting haven't been enforced for decades and the federal courts have ruled that networks can require reporters to lie as a condition of employment.

With modern computer tools, fabrication of video footage is quite easy--just look at the movie spoofs on the net.

updated Aug 27, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
Every word "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" down to the last comma. - territurtle, Aug 27, 2011
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basically have serious mental reservations about any news in foreign countries (and quite often, even my own),

Well if you live in The States and you have to watch Fox news and similar networks including the CNN, then I totally I understand your attitude. You can watch Aljazeera English as a reliable alternative. By the way, Aljazeera both Arabic and English were live from Tripoli, so there's no way that the footages were fabricated. And you can ask the 30 foreign journalists who were held at gun point by AlGaddafi militia at Rixos hotel just to stop them from telling the truth about was going on in Tripoli. So trust me, it's nonsense.

Clinton on US media and Aljazeera

updated Aug 27, 2011
edited by SpanishPal
posted by SpanishPal
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You will have to forgive me for being so sceptical

Well I'll have to respect you for that.

When I say trust me on this particular event (battle for Tripoli), the current facts on the ground back my statement, otherwise I wouldn't risk being an unreliable source.

Anyway, thanks for sharing, Lazarus, I mean really thank you for taking the time to teach us.

updated Aug 26, 2011
edited by SpanishPal
posted by SpanishPal
Just a random thing. No hard feelings. - lazarus1907, Aug 26, 2011
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Sea verdad o no, es un sitio sobresaliente para mejorar mi español. ¡Gracias por el enlace!

updated Aug 26, 2011
edited by pescador1
posted by pescador1
(sitio sobresaliente) Quizá no sea el mejor ejemplo, pero ver las noticias en otros idiomas ayuda mucho. - lazarus1907, Aug 26, 2011
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Lazarus, you are spot onexcaim

I personally have been privy to numerous television stories, i.e., I was there. (I lived for several years in Washington, D.C. and it wasn't pretty.)

When you watch the television broadcast later that evening, you sometimes wonder if the events depicted happened on a different planetquestion

I can't claim to have understood much, but thankfully the narrators spoke quite distinctly. My Spanish level, as you know, is not up to television news yet!! downer

updated Aug 26, 2011
posted by territurtle
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Fake CNN "live" broadcast

Basically, someone leaked the rehearsals of a "live" news broadcast. Then that is compared to the actual broadcast. It's hilarious and sad all at the same time.

Warning: there is some cussing. Including the f-word and the s-word (apparent off-camera conversation among co-workers).

I wouldn't normally link to such a video due to the cussing, but it's just so amazing.

updated Jan 3, 2012
posted by webdunce
Wow, gives a new twist to 'faking the news' - Gregory84, Jan 3, 2012
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No es por nada que estas programas se llaman "TV news shows"

Todo es falso - menos los pingüinos en el desierto. LOL

updated Aug 27, 2011
posted by 005faa61