Use of conditional and haber.

Question

How do you say.. I knew you would have used us Is it- Sabia que nos habrias a jugar Or- Sabia que nos ibas a jugar Also is there a negative Conditional?? Like- He would not speak French if he was in the US No el hablaria france si iba en los US Or- No el habla france en los US Thanks a lot.

good question - billygoat, Aug 22, 2011

Answer 1

Why "ibas a jugar" and not "habrias usado"?

Because in present you can say "Me la vas a jugar" or "Me la jugarás", using present or future, and those two tenses become imperfect and conditional respectively when they are recalled in the past.

He would not speak French if he were in the U.S. Él no hablaría francés si estuviera en los EE.UU.

"iba" means "went". "were", in this case, should be "fuera" (imperfect subjunctive of "ser").

"Iba a" is more like "was [going to]".

Thanks you helped my understand much better - mekamec, Aug 22, 2011

So you translated it (literally) as "I knew you were going to use us"?. And why the "la"? Excuse me for so many questions.. - Felixlynx, Aug 22, 2011

Answer 2

(No) Sabía que nos que (no) nos la ibas a jugar

or

(No) Sabía que nos que (no) nos la jugarías

Simply add one of those "no" to make them negative. Also:

No sabía que nos que nos la fueras a jugar

In this last case, you are either using a past perspective, or you are still not sure.

Also is there a negative Conditional?? Like- He would not speak French if he was in the US No el hablaria france si iba en los US Or- No el habla france en los US Thanks a lot.

Why "ibas a jugar" and not "habrias usado"? - Felixlynx, Aug 22, 2011

Answer 3

So you translated it (literally) as "I knew you were going to use us"?

Something like that, yes.

And why the "la"? Excuse me for so many questions..

It is an idiomatic expression, which means that it cannot be translated literally and there is no reason why it should look like that.

jugársela a alguien means "to do the dirty on someone".

jugársela, o jugárselas a alguien.

1. loc. verb. Comportarse con él mal o de modo desleal.

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Gracias :) eres el mejor - Felixlynx, Aug 22, 2011

Answer 4

Sabia que nos habrias usado.

He would not speak French if he were in the U.S. Él no hablaría francés si fuera en los EE.UU.

The negative conditional is the conditional.. with a negative :D just like English.

To clear some things up, "jugar" means "play". "Usar" means "use". "jugar" can be "play" (with someone's feelings), but "usar" is better here.

"iba" means "went". "were", in this case, should be "fuera" (imperfect subjunctive of "ser").

EDIT: Fuera should be estuviera. Jugar DOES work.

I thought the same exact thing!! With usar and fuera but in the Movie Vicky Christina Barcelona.. The Spanish to English was not so literal. youtube "nina mierda" - mekamec, Aug 22, 2011