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what's the other double letter alphabet?

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I know that the spanish alpahabet has "LL" but I believe there is a second double-letter character, am I correct?

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updated Aug 12, 2011
posted by felixsgirl81709

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Officially, the only "double" letter is the W, that was formed interlocking two V shapes.

Spanish has a 5 digraphs (two letters used together to represent one sound): ll, ch, rr, gu and qu.

updated Aug 12, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
Yes, but only 2 of those are considered part of the alphabet. - gintar77, Aug 12, 2011
Which two? The RAE no longer accepts digraphs as letters of the alphabet. - lazarus1907, Aug 12, 2011
Ch and Ll. See the link on my post. The RAE maintains that they are part of the alphabet, but not treated as independent letters for alphabetization. - gintar77, Aug 12, 2011
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Ch and Ll. See the link on my post. The RAE maintains that they are part of the alphabet, but not treated as independent letters for alphabetization.

The Diccionario panhispánico de dudas was written in 2005, and if you look carefully, it says this:

Esta obra está en proceso de adaptación a la Nueva gramática de la lengua española (2009) y a las normas de la nueva edición de la Ortografía de la lengua española (2010).

Rough translation: this book has to be updated to conform with the new grammar of 2009 and the orthography of 2010.

The Ortografía de la lengua española (2010), approved by 22 countries, says (typed from the book):

En español, además de las veintisiete letras arriba indicadas, existen cinco dígrafos o combinaciones de dos letras, que se emplean para representar gráficamente los siguientes fonemas: [...]

[...] Por lo tanto, a partir de este momento los dígrafos ch y ll dejan de ser considerados letras del abecedario español, lo que no significa, naturalmente, que desaparezcan de su sistema gráfico;

Key points: 27 letters; ch and ll are no longer letters.

updated Aug 12, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
Thank you, Lazarus. I was not aware of the recent changes. Sorry for confusing things. - gintar77, Aug 12, 2011
Nothing to be sorry about. What you were saying was true not that long ago after all; it is not like you made it up. - lazarus1907, Aug 12, 2011
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2010 revisions

It's official: The Spanish alphabet now has 27 letters. (same as English+ñ,Ñ)

updated Aug 12, 2011
posted by 0074b507
Thanks, Q! - gintar77, Aug 12, 2011
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Directly from the RAE website (color added for emphasis):

ABECEDARIO. 1. Para designar la serie ordenada de las letras con que se representan los sonidos de una lengua, pueden usarse indistintamente los términos abecedario y alfabeto. Como las demás lenguas románicas, el español se sirvió básicamente de la serie alfabética latina, que fue adaptada y completada a lo largo de los siglos. El abecedario español está hoy formado por las veintinueve letras siguientes: a, b, c, ch, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, ll, m, n, ñ, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z (? a, b, c, etc.).

'2. Esta variante española del alfabeto latino universal ha sido utilizada por la Academia desde 1803 (cuarta edición del Diccionario académico) en la confección de todas sus listas alfabéticas. Desde esa fecha, los dígrafos ch y ll (signos gráficos compuestos de dos letras) pasaron a considerarse convencionalmente letras del abecedario, por representar cada uno de ellos un solo sonido. No obstante, en el X Congreso de la Asociación de Academias de la Lengua Española, celebrado en 1994, se acordó adoptar el orden alfabético latino universal, en el que la ch y la ll no se consideran letras independientes. En consecuencia, las palabras que comienzan por estas dos letras, o que las contienen, pasan a alfabetizarse en los lugares que les corresponden dentro de la c y de la l, respectivamente. Esta reforma afecta únicamente al proceso de ordenación alfabética de las palabras, no a la composición del abecedario, del que los dígrafos ch y ll siguen formando parte.

updated Aug 12, 2011
posted by gintar77
Not up-to-date. They made more reforms in 2010. There are now 27 letters in the Spanish alphabet. Same as English plus ñ. http://spanish.about.com/b/2010/11/29/two-letters-dropped-from-spanish-alphabet.htm - 0074b507, Aug 12, 2011
I see. Well, they really should update their website then. Thanks Q! - gintar77, Aug 12, 2011
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"Ch" was dropped from the Spanish alphabet in 1994, though (and so was Ll for that matter!)

The 1994 decision only affected how words were alphabetized. Words containing "ch" and "ll" would be alphabetized as if they were not independent letters. However, the decision did not drop "ch" and "ll" from the alphabet itself.

Abecedario

updated Aug 12, 2011
edited by gintar77
posted by gintar77
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CH is still pronounced as a letter in Bolivia.

Example: LCH - which is a cold cure remedy and pronounced "ele ché"

updated Aug 12, 2011
posted by ian-hill
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"Ch" or "Rr", perhaps?

"Ch" was dropped from the Spanish alphabet in 1994, though (and so was Ll for that matter!)

"Rr" is not recognized by the Real Academia Española, so I can't say that it's a legitimate letter.

updated Aug 12, 2011
edited by SonrisaDelSol
posted by SonrisaDelSol
thanks, I think maybe it was the "RR" as the "ch" are not the same letter (as LL and RR). - felixsgirl81709, Aug 12, 2011
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Some things are better memorized with music

updated Aug 12, 2011
posted by S1r_Wakka