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For Grammarians: Is the word "sobrevivir" intransitive?

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Why is sobrevivir - Word of the Day August 5 - defined grammatically as an intransitive verb when in the two example sentences use it with direct objects?

Sobrevivimos el terremoto.

Tristemente, sobrevivía a sus hijos.

I like grammar, I usually understand grammar, but not this time.

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updated Aug 8, 2011
edited by --Mariana--
posted by Jubilado

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Well, the RAE only mentions that this verb is used intransitively. Looking in the DPD, it mentions that it should be constructed with an indirect object (to describe the event, thing or person that one survives, outlives or outlasts).

In regards to the example sentences:

Sobrevivimos el terremoto.

I would suggest that this is probably a typo and that the correct sentence should be:

?Sobrevivimos al terremoto.

In any case, there is certainly some evidence (taken from various news outlets) to support this usage:

?Sobreviví al terremoto dentro de Fukushima

?Sobrevivimos al 'Apocalipsis' que nunca llegó

?Sobrevivimos al huracán debajo de la cama

Tristemente, sobrevivía a sus hijos.

This one seems pretty straightforward in that the complement "a sus hijos" is an indirect object, a fact that might be made more clear by the inclusion of the indirect object pronoun:

Tristemente, (él) sobrevivía a sus hijos. ? Tristemente, (él) les sobrevivía.

updated Aug 8, 2011
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
les - 0074b507, Aug 8, 2011
Yes of course. Thank you. - Izanoni1, Aug 8, 2011
This is good, Izanoni. We all need to understand that in an intransitive verb the action of the verb is not carried over to a direct object. So I see now the mistake was not in the label but in the examples. Thanks to all for a good discussion! - Jubilado, Aug 8, 2011
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Many verbs can be either transitive or intransitive. For example,

He ran for hours.

He ran the marathon.

Sobrevivir is similar. So the definition is incomplete.

Transitive: Sobrevivió el teremoto.

Intransitive: Sobrevivía por muchos años.

Please refer to this article (there are plenty of others) explaining the dual nature of many verbs:

Transitive-Intransitive

updated Aug 14, 2011
edited by Jeremias
posted by Jeremias
You're right, of course, and in this forum there are some uses of sobrevivir as intransitive. - Jubilado, Aug 7, 2011
Both examples are intransitive. El terremoto is not the object of the action of surviving. - gintar77, Aug 7, 2011
In other words, "surviving" is not being done *to* the "earthquake". - gintar77, Aug 7, 2011
Hmm, after some research, it seems that construction is considered transitive in English. Maybe the rules are different in Spanish? - gintar77, Aug 7, 2011
Gintar, the same verb can be either intransitive or transitive, based on usage. See edited version with link above. - Jeremias, Aug 8, 2011
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Not sure if I'm understanding exactly where you're coming from but if I am je je this might help:

Transitive verb

A transitive verb is an action or linking verb that has a complement.

Dictionaries consider all linking verbs transitive.

An action verb which is transitive has a direct object. The action is being done to something or someone.

In most dictionaries the abbreviation v.t. means "verb, transitive."

Most verbs can be both intransitive and transitive depending on the sentence. Intransitive: He runs around the block daily. (There is no direct object.)

Transitive: He runs a large corporation. (The verb runs has a direct object, corporation.)

In your examples the action of the verb isn't being done to someone, they are doing it, they are surviving.

updated Aug 8, 2011
posted by Kiwi-Girl
I couldn't agree more, Kiwi. Great explanation. - LuisCache, Aug 8, 2011
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Like Iza said, it should have been "sobrevivimos al terremoto", where the "al terremoto" is the I.O.

updated Aug 8, 2011
posted by lazarus1907
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Transitive and intransitive constructions are somewhat different in Spanish than in English. For example, hitting someone is transitive in English (there are intransitive uses of hit as well), but the corresponding verb in Spanish can be transitive (golpear) or intransitive (pegar).

updated Aug 8, 2011
posted by lorenzo9