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Te or Tú: Which one to use?

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Hello,

I started learning Spanish about 6 weeks ago and have come across something in my textbook that I don't quite understand. The question the book asks the reader is:

¿Dónde te compraste la camisa?

I don't get why "te" is used here instead of "tú". I'm pretty new to grammar, so maybe I haven't learned enough to know why (or am just forgetting something.)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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updated Aug 3, 2011
posted by MBLM
Excellent question, I'm spanish speaker and I don't know how explain you clairly now... Let me think a little... - Krassa, Jul 26, 2011
Welcome to the forum :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 26, 2011

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For 6 weeks of Spanish this may be pretty heavy but basically 'Te' is an indirect object pronoun and is used to help clarify that you bought it for yourself.

¿Dónde te compraste la camisa? Where did you buy (te= for you/yourself) the shirt?

you could also leave it off and have

¿Dónde compraste la camisa? Where did you buy the shirt. But the shirt could then be for anyone. smile

This article may help. Indirect ObjectsTo identify the indirect object use our two guidelines:

The Indirect Object tells us where the Direct Object is going. The IO answers the question "to whom?" or "for whom" the action of the verb is performed.

When a pronoun takes the place of the name of the indirect object, use the following pronouns:

me (me) te (you-familiar) le (him, her, you-formal)

nos (us) os (you-all-familiar) les (them, you-all-formal)

updated Aug 3, 2011
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
No puede estar mejor descrito. TE felicito :) - Krassa, Jul 26, 2011
Creo que no. Es reflexivo, no es objetivo indirecto. - Goyo, Jul 26, 2011
Gracias Krassa :) - ¿vas a reunir nuestro hilo audio? Lo más nativos lo mejor :) http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/199353/interactive-audio-thread-no-5-hilo-de-audio-interactivo-5-how-to-quit-smoking-cmo-dejar-de-fumar#a481929 - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 26, 2011
ooops Krassa - that should probably be - cuánto más mejor or something like that lol :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 26, 2011
Nice, Kiwi! :) - GuitarWarrior, Jul 27, 2011
Gracias GW :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 27, 2011
but I don't think that it can be reflexive because it's not you that receives the action of the verb - you receive the shirt lol but it's the shirt that gets bought or gets the action of the verb :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 3, 2011
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¿Dónde te compraste la camisa?

It makes perfect sense.

Here, the verb comprar is used as a reflexive verb, as comprar sometimes is. It is saying, "Where did you buy yourself that shirt?"

You may not have learned the reflexive pronouns yet, but "te" is the second person singular.

"Tú" is used for subjects. "Te" is used for indirect objects, direct objects, reflexive pronouns...many more places than tú.

updated Aug 3, 2011
edited by Goyo
posted by Goyo
@ Goyo - aren't we talking about the same thing - isn't a reflexive pronoun an indirect object pronoun anyway? ie the indirect object matches the subject so it's a reflexive prounoun? :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 26, 2011
No, reflexive pronouns are not the same. Proof: 3rd person. Reflexive = se. indirect object pronoun = le. - Goyo, Jul 27, 2011
Thanks Goyo. I hadn't run into comprar used reflexively before. I should have looked it up before responding! - Jeremias, Jul 27, 2011
Thanks Goyo :) - GuitarWarrior, Jul 27, 2011
Reflexive???? - lazarus1907, Jul 27, 2011
Goyo I don't think it can be reflexive because you are not receiving the action of the verb, it is the shirt that is bought and thus receives the action of the verb not you, although you are buying it for yourself. - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 3, 2011
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¿Dónde te compraste la camisa?

I don't get why "te" is used here instead of "tú". I'm pretty new to grammar, so maybe I haven't learned enough to know why (or am just forgetting something.)

That "te" is not used instead of "tú". Look at the sentence slightly modified:

¿Dónde te compraste la camisa?

That "te" is an indirect object which is used to indicate that the person didn't just buy the shirt, but also for herself.

updated Jul 28, 2011
posted by lazarus1907
Thank you so much Lazarus :) - GuitarWarrior, Jul 27, 2011
Muchísimas gracias :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 28, 2011
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I'd say that that te erases the doubt as to whom you bought the shirt for.

I can say: Me compré algo. = I bought (myself) something.

Compré algo. = I bought something (may be for myself or for someone else).

updated Jul 27, 2011
edited by Deanski
posted by Deanski
This is essentially the same as Kiwi's, so I apologize if I appear to be parroting. - Deanski, Jul 26, 2011
I love confirmation je je - I can breathe a sigh of relief that I may actually have got something half right je je gracias :) - Kiwi-Girl, Jul 26, 2011
:) - GuitarWarrior, Jul 27, 2011
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Reflexive???? - lazarus1907 1 day ago flag

OK.... there is no way I'm going to argue Spanish grammar with you. red face

But this does lead me to a question.

Our dictionary entry says, "This (verb) can be reflexive depending on the meaning."

Ok great. So if this is not a case of it being used as a reflexive verb, when clearly he is buying it for himself.....

....then can you give me an example of when it is a reflexive verb? smile

updated Jul 28, 2011
edited by Goyo
posted by Goyo
I see where your coming from, it conveys the same message. - Politically_Correct1, Jul 28, 2011
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Consider Kiwi's answer with the knowledge that Spanish tries to avoid the possessive pronouns whenever possible. In other words, Spanish would prefer we say la camisa instead of tu comisa.

They say ¿Dónde te compraste la camisa? instead of ¿Dónde compraste tu camisa?

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There are times to say "tu camisa", though. This is usually done in contrast to someone else's shirt.

Fred compró su camisa de Dillard's. ¿De dónde compraste tu camisa?

(Really, in this case, they'd probably say ¿De dónde compraste la tuya?, but is another topic.)

updated Jul 27, 2011
edited by webdunce
posted by webdunce
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I get your confusion - this doesn't make sense. Where did you buy the shirt? "You" is the subject, and should be tú. In practice, you probably wouldn't use a subject pronoun at all unless to provide emphasis, for example if someone had said, "Well, I bought the shirt at a thrift shop. Where did you buy the shirt?

updated Jul 26, 2011
posted by Jeremias
The tú is not expressed because it's not necessary. It would be ¿Dónde te compraste tú la camisa?" - Goyo, Jul 26, 2011
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Sorry, it seems there are much better explanations...

Thanks, Goyo, Kiwi, and Lazarus. smile

I'll enjoy watching everyone's interesting posts here. grin

updated Jul 28, 2011
edited by GuitarWarrior
posted by GuitarWarrior