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I think it is lousy. Go back to the old one.

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updated Jun 25, 2011
edited by 00494d19
posted by ian-hill
Ian, lol, was that an O R D E R or were you A S K I N G for them to put it back? jejeje, Hi :) - Destroyed99, Jun 20, 2011
Hi Cuddly - let's see. I could have phrased it more diplomatically but .............. - ian-hill, Jun 20, 2011
Hmm, alright :P I agree with you anyway mate. :) - Destroyed99, Jun 20, 2011
I like Ian's approach, simple and straight to the point. - amykay, Jun 21, 2011

15 Answers

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I put the new translator through a test to translate 3 sentences:

Sentence 1 An simple English sentence into Spanish

I would like to buy a car = Me gustaría comprar un coche:

Results:

Microsoft empowered machine Me gustaría comprar un coche:

Google: Me gustaría comprar un coche:

SDL Quiero comprar un coche

When it came to translating the same sentence from Spanish to English MS and SDL performed well giving I would like to buy a car but Google gave I would buy a car

Sentence 2 A simple Spanish sentence into English:

¿Dónde está el azúcar? = Where is the sugar?

Microsoft gave: Where is sugar?

Google: Where's the sugar?

SDL: Where is the sugar?

When the same sentence was given in English the results were the same and accurate for all the translators:

:¿Dónde está el azúcar?

Sentence 3 ¿Qué tal?

Microsoft empowered: How is it going?

Google What?

SDL What?

When asked to tranalate the sentences from English into Spanish the results were similar::

Microsoft. empowered; ¿Qué tal?

Google: ¿Qué te va?

SDL ¿Cómo va?

I would be interested in any comments now on the results wink smile grin

updated Jun 25, 2011
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
Never, oh, ever trust machine translations!! That goes for every language. Believe it or not, Spanish/English gives better results than any of the other languages I know. :( - territurtle, Jun 20, 2011
Yes I know I prefer to improve my Spanish Infact even the langauge translator function through Microsoft whcihyou can obtain through highlighting text is more accurate than theses machines - FELIZ77, Jun 20, 2011
Actually if you tried to translate anything even very short and easy sentences from english to arabic it'd never make any sense!!! - 00b6f46c, Jun 20, 2011
Lovely I am sure you are right You know more about your langauge than I do lol:) - FELIZ77, Jun 20, 2011
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I used a large text from Paco for a test of the translator function. Here are the results. Basically the new translator did a better job on this large text from Spanish to English.

Océanos de la Tierra Los océanos de la Tierra cubren más del 70% de la superficie de nuestro planeta. Hay cinco cuencas oceánicas importantes: El océano Pacífico, el Océano Atlántico, el Océano Índico, el Océano Ártico y el Océano del Sur que rodea la Antártida. El agua del mar es salada. Cualquier persona que ha tomado un trago de agua de mar mientras nadaba lo sabe. Lo salado del agua se llama salinidad del agua. La sal se disuelve en el agua. Pero también hay otros minerales y gases que se disuelven en el agua de mar. El agua del océano se mueve constantemente. El agua es movida en los 400 metros superiores del océano por las corrientes superficiales del océano . El agua también es movida por la corrientes ascendentes que llevan agua del océano profundo a áreas bajas, y por corrientes descendentes, que llevan el agua de la superficie al océano profundo. Las corrientes a lo largo de las costas mueven agua y arena. El agua móvil transporta calor del Sol alrededor del planeta, que tiene un efecto sobre clima. Los modelos de clima complejos, llamados modelos acoplados atmósfera - océano , consideran la dinámica de la atmósfera y océanos para poder representar más exactamente cómo trabaja la Tierra. Cada día, el agua del océano se mueve con las mareas, cambiando donde el agua se encuentra con la orilla, en un ciclo que no tiene fin. Los ciclos de mareas quizás sean más obvios en los estuarios. Las mareas de los océanos son un tipo de marea creada por la fuerza gravitacional. Sobre largos períodos de tiempo, el agua circula desde el océano profundo a áreas de poca profundidad, y luego regresa hacia las profundidades. Esta circulación de agua de mar se llama trasportador global del océano o circulación termohalina . A medida que el clima de la Tierra se calienta, el transportador global del océano podría cambiar su patrón. La altura de la superficie del océano se llama nivel del mar . Sobre mucho tiempo, el nivel del mar puede cambiar por muchas razones. Hoy, el nivel del mar está aumentando rapidamente , a medida que el clima de la tierra se calienta. Esto se debe a que los glaciares y láminas de hielo están agregando agua a los océanos y porque el el agua del océano se expande cuando se calienta. Los arrecifes de coral son afectados a causa de los cambios en el océano, a causa del calentamiento global y otros cambios como la contaminación. A medida que gases invernadero como el dióxido de carbono se disuelven en el agua marina, el océano se hace más ácido, lo cual es dañino para los corales y el res

Here are the results. Our new translators:

Oceans of the Earth the Earth oceans cover more than 70% of the surface of our planet. There are five major oceanic basins: the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Indian Ocean, the Arctic Ocean and the Southern Ocean surrounding Antarctica. The water of the sea is salty. Any person who has taken a SIP of seawater swimming knows this. Salt water is called the salinity of the water. The salt is dissolved in water. But there are also other minerals and gases that are dissolved in seawater. The ocean water is constantly moving. Water is moved in the 400 meters above the Ocean by the surface currents of the ocean. The water is also moved by the ascending currents that carry water from the ocean deep to low-lying areas, and downstream flows, leading water from the surface to the deep ocean. Currents along coastlines move water and sand. The mobile water carries heat from the Sun the planet, which has an effect on climate. The complex climate models, called models coupled atmosphere - ocean, consider the dynamics of the atmosphere and oceans to more accurately represent how the Earth works. Every day, the water of the ocean moves with the tides, changing where the water meets the shore, in a cycle that has no end. Tidal cycles are perhaps most obvious in the estuaries. The tides of the oceans are a type of tide created by the gravitational force. Over long periods of time, the water circulates from the deep ocean areas of shallow, and then returns to the depths. This movement of sea water is called the global targets of the ocean thermohaline circulation. As the Earth's climate warms, the global ocean conveyor could change its pattern. The height of the surface of the ocean is called the sea level. About long, the sea level can change for many reasons. Today, the sea level is rising quickly, as the Earth's climate warms. This is due to the glaciers and ice sheets are adding water to the oceans and because the ocean water expands when heated. Coral reefs are affected by changes in the ocean, due to global warming and other changes such as pollution. As as carbon dioxide greenhouse gas dissolve in the water marina, ocean becomes more acidic, which is harmful to the corals and the rest Microsoft Translator

Earth Oceans Earth's oceans cover over 70% of the surface of our planet. There are five major ocean basins: the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Indian Ocean, the Arctic Ocean and the Southern Ocean around Antarctica. Sea water is salty. Anyone who has taken a gulp of sea water while swimming knows. The salty water is called water salinity. The salt dissolves in water. But there are also other minerals and gases dissolved in seawater. Ocean water is constantly moving. The water is moved in the 400 meters of the ocean surface currents of the ocean. Water is also driven by the rising currents that carry water in the deep ocean to shallow areas, and downdrafts, which carry water from the surface to the deep ocean. The currents along the coast move water and sand. Moving water transports heat from the sun around the planet, which has an effect on climate. Complex climate models, called models, coupled atmosphere - ocean, consider the dynamics of the atmosphere and oceans in order to more accurately represent how the Earth works. Every day, water from the ocean moves with the tides, Google Translate

Oceans of the earth the Earth's oceans cover more than 70% of our planet's surface. There are five ocean basins important: the Pacific ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, Indian Ocean, the Arctic Ocean and the Southern Ocean surrounding Antarctica. The water of the Mar is salty. Any person who has taken a drink of water while mar swimmer knows. Saltiness of the water is called water salinity. The salt dissolves in water. But there are also other minerals and gases that are dissolved in water from mar. The water of the ocean moves constantly. The water is moved in the 400 meters above the ocean because of the surface currents of the ocean . Water is also driven by the upwelling that carry water from the deep ocean to low-lying areas, and by flows downstream, which carry the water from the surface to the deep ocean. Flows along the coasts move water and sand. The mobile water transports heat of the Sun around the planet, which has an effect on climate. Models of complex climate, called models coupled atmosphere-ocean , consider the dynamics of the atmosphere and oceans in order to represent more exactly as works on the land. Each day, the ocean water moves with the tides, changing where the water is with the waterfront in a cycle that does not end. The cycles of tides are perhaps more obvious in the estuaries. The tides of the oceans are a type of tide created by the gravitational force. Over long periods of time, the water circulates from the deep ocean to areas of shallow, and then returns to the depths. This movement of water from Mar is called global conveyor belt of the ocean or thermohaline circulation . As the Earth's climate has been heated, the carrier of the global ocean could change your pattern. The height of the surface of the ocean is called the level of the mar . On long time, the level of the mar may change for many reasons. Today, the level of the Mar is increasing rapidly, as the earth's climate warms. This is due to the glaciers and slabs of ice are adding water to the oceans and because the water of the ocean expands when heated. Coral reefs are affected as a result of changes in the ocean, because of global warming and other changes such as pollution. As greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide is dissolved in seawater, the ocean becomes more acid, which is harmful for corals and the rest this is S D L

This text blew up in the first two sections of the old translator. Here is the babel.

The Earth oceans The Earth oceans cover more with 70% of the surface of our planet. There are five important ocean basins: The Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Arctic Ocean and the Ocean of the South that surrounds the Antarctic. The water of the sea is salty. Any person who has taken a drink from water of sea while she swam knows it. The salty thing of the water is called salinity of the water. The salt dissolves in the water. But also there are other minerals and gases that dissolve in the water of sea. The water of the ocean moves constantly. The water is moved in the 400 meters superiors of the ocean by the superficial currents of the ocean. The water also is moved by the ascending currents that take water of the deep ocean to low areas, and by descendent currents, that take the water from the surface to the deep ocean. The currents throughout the coasts move water and sand. The movable water transports heat of the Sun around the planet, that has an effect on climate. The complex climate models, calls connected models atmosphere - the ocean, considers the dynamics of the atmosphere and the oceans to be able to represent more exactly how the Earth works. Every day, the water of the ocean moves with the tides, changing where the water is with the border, in a cycle that does not have aim. Perhaps the cycles of tides are more obvious in the estuaries. The tides of the oceans are a type of tide created by the gravitational force. On long periods of time, the water circulates from the deep ocean to areas of little depth, and soon it returns towards the depths. This water circulation of sea is called global trasportador of the ocean or termohalina circulation. As the Earth climate is warmed up, the global transporter of the ocean could change his landlord. The height of the surface of the ocean is called level of the sea. On long time, the level of the sea can change for many reasons. Today, the level

updated Jun 25, 2011
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
Well it looks fine to me Sanlee, the translations provided are very close to the original meaning. - 00b6f46c, Jun 21, 2011
Only a few errors easily corrected - pacofinkler, Jun 21, 2011
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I preferred the old ones As Q has suggested, large portions of texts could be translated on the Babel translator. Now we will have to go off site for that which is not a great inconvenience. One of the reasons that I came to this site from another learning group was because of its great translators.(It is how I first noticed this great site!) Now, of course, we are not using the translators in the daily threads. But for people who need help with a book they are reading or for communicating with other people, the translators still have an important function. I hope these new translators are as useful as the old ones were, but when I tried them, I was not impressed with them.

updated Jun 25, 2011
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
Hi Sanlee, how big is the text that you are trying to translate? - Christopher, Jun 21, 2011
It was over 150 words and it fit in babel, but I llost all the information when this thread was closed - sanlee, Jun 21, 2011
I found it and I am posting the results now - sanlee, Jun 21, 2011
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I prefer the old one...

The new one gives extreemly stupid translations anyway, a lot of the time when I put something in there they all contradict eachother rolleyes

It looks great and all though raspberry

This is just my opinion, don't take it badly.

Johanna - Respect in every Aspect

updated Jun 25, 2011
posted by Destroyed99
Hmm, I meant, the layout is much cleaner and LOOKS better, but the translations aren't really any good and I can't put enough text in it :) - Destroyed99, Jun 20, 2011
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Personally, I like it better. The layout is much more to-the-point. And, the Microsoft and Google translators both seem to do fairly decent jobs at translating (better than yahoo or that babel fish one).

Of course, I just usually use Google's Translate page instead of using the service here.

updated Jun 25, 2011
posted by webdunce
Of course, this is all utterly subjective, mind you. - webdunce, Jun 20, 2011
That word - you know which one is banned here. :) - ian-hill, Jun 20, 2011
You wish it was banned, Ian! hahaha ;) - Destroyed99, Jun 20, 2011
2
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I definitely prefer the new layout. You can see three different machine translations without scrolling down or across, and compare them with ease. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the translations - and I've seen some very big variations between them - would like to hear from other users which one(s) seem to be the most accurate. Another plus: you do not have to specify English to Spanish or vice versa.

updated Jun 20, 2011
posted by LaBurra
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As yet I cannot comment, I use the translator when I am reading, and both the old and the new serve me well enough. I have never tried it for long texts or for creative work therefore I must stand away to see how it may work in those areas. My preference at this time is the old translator, I think i don´t like change too much.

updated Jun 22, 2011
posted by pacofinkler
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Sandy, I am trying it out with large portions of texts, and it works finr...I think it is much clearer this way .

updated Jun 22, 2011
posted by 00494d19
Couldn't you provide a url to translate in the old version? You didn't have to cut and paste, or was I dreaming? - 0074b507, Jun 20, 2011
The old one could take up to 150 words or maybe more on the Babel. I don't know when this changed because I haven't been using them - sanlee, Jun 20, 2011
I will try it out, Heidi. I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. - sanlee, Jun 20, 2011
I did get good results with the new translator, Heidi - sanlee, Jun 22, 2011
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This thread is open now.

updated Jun 22, 2011
posted by 00494d19
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I preferred the old format as it had the availability of many languages and I would use Slovenian, French, Filipino and sometimes, Haitian Creole. It was a multi purpose translator right there in one place. I will miss that facility even though I do realize that this is obviously not the mandate of SpanishDict.com

updated Jun 21, 2011
edited by drewrywpg
posted by drewrywpg
I agree - ian-hill, Jun 20, 2011
You might like this site: http://translate.google.com/ - webdunce, Jun 20, 2011
Oh hey, that is what I use now, William :) - Destroyed99, Jun 20, 2011
Gracias. Webdunce. I looked at that site and it appears to be exactly what I want. - drewrywpg, Jun 21, 2011
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There seems to be mixed opinions about this change.

It was tried out a while back - so why is it being tried again?

updated Jun 20, 2011
posted by ian-hill
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Yes, I agree with those who say they like the new layout better which is helpful when it comes to viewing it. I will reserve judgemnet as to whether it will perform any better than the last model Well, that remains to be seen I am keeping an open mind tongue wink smile grin

''The jury is out'' as our good old English expression says 'so we wait with interest because it could out-perfom the previos version but don't bet your life savings on it 1 lol tongue wink tongue rolleye smile LOL

updated Jun 20, 2011
posted by FELIZ77
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Well l opened a topic about that before, personally l think it's much better than the old one smile

The beta version of our new translation page!

updated Jun 20, 2011
edited by 00b6f46c
posted by 00b6f46c
...personalLy... ;-) - webdunce, Jun 20, 2011
Thank you! :) - 00b6f46c, Jun 20, 2011
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My comment on it when I first tried it was that it seems to have lost the link where you can translate whole pages or web sites. Have they provided a workaround yet?

updated Jun 20, 2011
posted by 0074b507
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I prefer the new one. It's easier to compare translations like others have said with everything on one page.

updated Jun 20, 2011
posted by TheSilentHero