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Is this letter as eloquent as I think it is?

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I would like a native to tell me if this would be considered eloquent Spanish.

He pasado tres días extraños: el mar, la playa, los caminos me fueron trayendo recuerdos de otros tiempos. No sólo imágenes: también voces, gritos y largos silencios de otros días. Es curioso, pero vivir consiste en construir futuros recuerdos; ahora mismo, aquí frente al mar, sé que estoy preparando recuerdos minuciosos, que alguna vez me traerán la melancolía y la desesperanza.

El mar está ahí, permanente y rabioso. Mi llanto de entonces, inútil; también inútiles mis esperas en la playa solitaria, mirando tenazmente al mar. ¿Has adivinado y pintado este recuerdo mío o has pintado el recuerdo de muchos seres como vos y yo?

Pero ahora tu figura se interpone: estás entre el mar y yo. Mis ojos encuentran tus ojos. Estás quieto y un poco desconsolado, me miras como pidiendo ayuda.

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updated Jun 20, 2011
edited by la-araña-discoteca
posted by la-araña-discoteca
Quieto. - Eddy, Jun 18, 2011
ahh typo. so nothing about its eloquence? - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 18, 2011
another typo I think..mirás? - galsally, Jun 18, 2011
hmm.... how do you figure? - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 18, 2011
poesía vs prosa....la estructura - 0074b507, Jun 18, 2011
que quieres decir con eso Qfreed? - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 18, 2011
The difference between poetry and prose is one is more structured than the other. This prose is well structured like poetry. - 0074b507, Jun 18, 2011
well said sr. qfreed. well said indeed. - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 19, 2011
Mirás with accent - should it be future tense - mirarás? - galsally, Jun 19, 2011
well how discerning of you galsally. i too seek to develop such a keen awareness of spanish grammar :)) it should in fact be miras (without the accent mark) - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 19, 2011
Then I had a thought - what if it's actually conjugated for the 'vos' form? I think 'mirás' is right after all - you copied it from the book, eh? - galsally, Jun 20, 2011
actually, i typed it. and then when you pointed it out i instantly thought it was wrong and did not double-check the book. but in fact, it was right the first time. - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 20, 2011
it is indeed a conjugation that corresponds with the use of "vos." - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 20, 2011
at least im pretty sure it is. they do not use "tu" in the book, just "vos." - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 20, 2011

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I have spent three weird days: the sea, the beach, the roads were bringing me memories from other times. Not inly images: voices too, screams and long silences/pauses from other days. It is curious, but living consists of building future memories; right now, here in front of the ocean/sea, I know I am preparing minute/detailed memories, that sometime will bring me melancholy and hopelessness.

The ocean/sea is there, permanent and furious. My crying from then, useless; also useless my waiting (periods) en the solitary beach, looking tenaciously/stubbornly the sea/ocean. Have you guessed and painted this memory of mine or have you painted the memory of many beings like you and I?

But now your figure/silhouette interposes: you are between the ocean and I. My eyes find your eyes. You are still and a bit inconsolable, you look at me as if asking for help.

Eloquent?

I don't know, you tell me. smile

updated Jun 19, 2011
edited by chileno
posted by chileno
It's eloquent, all right! - territurtle, Jun 18, 2011
that is a great translation chileno. kudos. is ernesto sabato popular in chile? - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 19, 2011
i think "el tunel" has to be one of the greatest books i've ever read. i will have to get an english copy tomorrow in order to compare the translations. this will be fun :) - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 19, 2011
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Someone should take a shot at translating it just as eloquently in English. Who's up for it? Then we'll look up the version of the book published in English and see how close we get!

Or am I getting too over excited about it? haha

updated Jun 18, 2011
edited by la-araña-discoteca
posted by la-araña-discoteca
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Araña, I hope you don't mind if I use the 'mirás' example both to be helpful to you, and to revive a very good thread made by our Argentinian friend, Benz.

What is "vos"?

updated Jun 20, 2011
posted by galsally
i don't mind at all. do i get royalties? or maybe a shout-out instead? :)) - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 20, 2011
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Is there a word missing after 'también inutiles mis' ?

Sorry Araña, I'm not native either. Did you write it? What comes next?

updated Jun 19, 2011
posted by galsally
No, no word missing. You might have gotten confused because i didn't put a space between "esperas" and "en" so it read "tambien inutiles mis esperasen..." but i fixed it now :) - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 18, 2011
and no, this is a letter written to someone in one of ernesto sabato's books. he is a nobel prize winning argentinian author - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 18, 2011
reading it in the context of the book gave me goosebumps, so i am wondering if it comes off as eloquent to a native as it did to me :)) - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 18, 2011
ah I see! Yes, I was thinking you were using past subjunctiveof esperar and wondering what the noun was! :) - galsally, Jun 19, 2011
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Pero ahora tu figura se interpone: estás entre el mar y yo. Mis ojos encuentran tus ojos. Estás quieto y un poco desconsolado, me mirás como pidiendo ayuda.

"... entre mí y el mar."

To avoid redundancy, I would say "Los ojos mios encuentran los tuyos."

"Estás quieta y un poco desconsolada, me miras como si pidieras ayuda,"

updated Jun 19, 2011
posted by 005faa61
entre mí y el mar is incorrect. The riginal text is correct. - chileno, Jun 18, 2011
very bold of you julian to correct ernesto sabato :)) - la-araña-discoteca, Jun 19, 2011
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The question is "Is this letter considered eloquent?" The answer is no because writing in Spanish is very flowery whereas writing in English is very concise. That is why it is difficult to translate, say a paragraph in a book, from Spanish to English. This is the norm when you read letters, books, etc. in Spanish.

updated Jun 19, 2011
posted by margaretcorwin
English can be as flowery as Spanish and Spanish can be as concise as English, plus everything in-between in all shades. - 002067fe, Jun 19, 2011