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Ponga las cajas alla means put the boxes over there?

Ponga las cajas alla means put the boxes over there?

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What the difference when you say ponga las cajas allá and ponga las cajas allí? Mexican-Americans in South Texas say ponga las cajas allá which means put the boxes over there, is this incorrect?

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updated May 30, 2011
posted by VengoDr

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ahí = (over) there, near the listener
allí = (over) there, in the general vicinity of the speaker and the listener
allá = (over) there, farther away

aquí = here, near the speaker
acá = here, in the vicinity of the speaker

Note that acá can be used in situations where "there" or "over there" would be used in English, even though it is usually used to mean "around here". There are times when someone will use one of the words for there when a strict application of the above definitions would indicate that a different one should be used--they are guidelines, not strict rules. No one is going to break out a measuring tape and calculate which word to use.

Note also that the distances are not an absolute rule, just as in English:

I live here in Ecuador. Vivo aquí en Ecuador. (distance = whole country)
I know a lot of people around here. Conozco mucha gente por acá. (distance = neighborhood)
My house is over there. Mi casa está allá. (distance = a few blocks)

updated May 29, 2011
edited by lorenzo9
posted by lorenzo9
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No, it isn't a matter of preference. It's a matter of distance. Allí is right there and allá is farther, over there.

updated May 29, 2011
posted by margaretcorwin
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My understanding was that "alli" meant "there" in the sense of "over there" and usually referred to a particular location (as already stated).

Allá has the meaning of "there" in the sense of "beyond" or regarding a greater (or more ambiguous) distance. For instance, I own a Spanish textbook titled "Más allá de las Palabras"--

or , Beyond the Words.

updated May 29, 2011
edited by NancyGrace
posted by NancyGrace
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No thats the way I say it ponga la tabla allá which means put the board over there, is this wrong? Even maragret says that this is correct and she's a native spanish speaker

updated May 30, 2011
posted by VengoDr
This is correct VengoDr. Ponga la tabla allá. - margaretcorwin, May 29, 2011
Yes, it is correct. - lorenzo9, May 30, 2011
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Hi, Vengo,

"Ahí" can be an indeterminate location whereas "Allí" is is going to mean a specific spot or area. This is what the dictionary on this site says.

You seem to be fixated on using allá, so why don't you just use it with no uncertainty? After all, if the person or persons don't understand you, you can choose another word, or description to make your point.

updated May 30, 2011
posted by NancyGrace
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Ok, good... then "allí" can mean "over there"... but just not as far away as "allá". If I think about what they are teaching, it is "over there" (in the vicinity of the speaker and listener).

I would probably say allí in this case, but others might say allá or acá.

At a restaurant the other day, a man was standing imbetween two tables and asking someone else which one they preferred. He called one acá and one allí. The distances were the same and the listener was standing next to him. It's the same as using "(over) here or (over) there" in English, despite the fact that here and there mean slightly different things.

I also saw two people standing on opposite sides of a counter and one guy refered to something on the other side of the counter in front of the other guy as "allí".

updated May 30, 2011
edited by lorenzo9
posted by lorenzo9
Acá means over here, allá means over there / allí means there; it's all a matter of distance from the speaker. - margaretcorwin, May 29, 2011
Not when natives speak. - lorenzo9, May 30, 2011
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So ponga la tabla allá means put the boards over there?

updated May 29, 2011
posted by VengoDr
boards plural would be "las tablas" and it seems the consensus above would recommend "alli" in preference to "allá" - NancyGrace, May 29, 2011
It would be - Ponga la tabla allá if you want to say Put the board over there. - margaretcorwin, May 29, 2011
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Ok, good... then "allí" can mean "over there"... but just not as far away as "allá". If I think about what they are teaching, it is "over there" (in the vicinity of the speaker and listener).

updated May 29, 2011
posted by Tosh
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Ok my question is ponga las cajas allá correct? Or does it have to be allí

updated May 28, 2011
posted by VengoDr
If you want to say "Put the boxes over there", it is correct. If you want to say "Put the boxes there" then you say "Ponga las cajas allí". - margaretcorwin, May 28, 2011
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My understanding has always been that ahí = there, allí = (right) over there [referring to a specific place], and allá = (somewhere) over there [referring to a vague location].

updated May 28, 2011
posted by gintar77
Ahí and allí are the same. - margaretcorwin, May 28, 2011
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Both Rosetta Stone, and from what a friend told me, Pimsleur, teach that "allí" is "over there".

El hotel está allí.

The hotel is over there. Not, the hotel is right there.

updated May 28, 2011
edited by Tosh
posted by Tosh
Tosh that is incorrect. Allí is there and allá is over there. I can't tell you how many mistakes I have found in textbooks, so you can't really rely on printed material to be absolutely correct all the time. - margaretcorwin, May 28, 2011
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I once asked somebody about the difference between "allí" and "allá", and they told me it was a matter of preference. She was from Colombia.

We'll see what others say...

updated May 28, 2011
edited by Tosh
posted by Tosh