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Plaza Cataluña

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Phew!! Very heavy piece of work. That was pretty menacing. Politically stupid as well.

link text Here's an interesting take from El Periodico link text

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updated May 28, 2011
edited by lagartijaverde
posted by lagartijaverde
birdy, link does not open - 00494d19, May 28, 2011
Got it going this time. Thanks - lagartijaverde, May 28, 2011
the correct spelling in Spanish is plaza cataluña, unless you wish to learn catalán;) - 00494d19, May 28, 2011
Yes, sorry, I tend use the Catalan place names when I know the city or the place. - lagartijaverde, May 28, 2011
"Plaça de Catalunya" there's one in Girona too, there were a bunch of people camping there last time i looked. - rabbitwho, May 28, 2011
yes, rabbit, but we are in Madrid here, we have a plaza cataluña, you can check on the web, this is Spanish spelling. - 00494d19, May 28, 2011

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Spain Ireland and Greece and probably other countries are very similar in that people who work in the public sector do not need to protest. They have a job for life and are very secure. It is the young people and people employed in the private sector who feel that they need to protest to be heard. The Spanish government and banks have not come to terms with the scale of the problems facing Spain. But I believe that the people know the situation and especially the 60 % of the working population who work in the priveleged public sector.

updated May 28, 2011
posted by aocroc
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People weren't taking it seriously or supporting them, once they see stuff like this that will change. It's just ridiculous. Nothing could possibly have helped keep the "revolution" going more than this.

I feel bad for the people hurt, they were just being peaceful and idealistic, they weren't doing anything but causing a disruption. They're being shot at with plastic bullets as well. Talk about an overreaction.

updated May 28, 2011
posted by rabbitwho
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Something must be happening with the police now because they're going demented, it sounds like a hoard of bean sí.

Oh now it's just the Barca match! Ha ha.

updated May 28, 2011
edited by rabbitwho
posted by rabbitwho
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The protestors say on their facebook page they won't try to impede anybody shopping or anything,

Well, nobody can cross the square, it is completely taken.they do not exactly impede people shopping, but of course, people cannot access places, trust me, you should be here to see this....rolleyes

they have put banners literally everywhere and people are afraid to remove these banners, even from their property, like newspaper kiosks , as they are warned that would have consequences.

This situation is outrageous.mad

If you want to demonstrate in this country, you have to legally apply for permission to do so, like in any other democratic country.

These people have taken the law into their hands, public camping is not legal in this country, obviously, but the local police has no competence here.

It all boils down to what I said before, everything is political here.

First the governing party did not want to remove the people as they feared a political beating in the election, which they got anyway.

Now, Madrid continues being governed by the right wing party. So as long as the socialist party is governing, I am afraid, hell will have to break loose to get those guys out of there!

updated May 28, 2011
posted by 00494d19
This is another instance of this plague of our time! That everyone has an inflated sense of their own intelligence and thinks it's more important to have an opinion on a subject than to know the first thing about it! - rabbitwho, May 28, 2011
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What we need is rain!

I pray thee, good Mercutio, let’s retire; The day is hot, the Capels are abroad, And if we meet we shall not ‘scape a brawl, For now these hot days is the mad blood stirring.

All of this protesting is just because this Spring was so hot and this May has the high temperatures you'd normally see in June and July!

updated May 28, 2011
posted by rabbitwho
Oh I have the misfortune of living close to a park. There is a crowd of people, some fool is setting off fireworks and scaring all the dogs in the area. Someone is going to get their hand blown off, a lot more dangerous than anything the police did. - rabbitwho, May 28, 2011
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How are things going in Madrid

This is unfortunate for all who live in Madrid.

It is of course a political issue, Madrid is PP, actually the socialists have just suffered a terrible beating in the elections, so the person in charge of removing the guys from the square, Rubalcaba (Socialist party) , just refuses to do so, even though the supreme court ruled that the people should be removed.

What can I say..??

updated May 28, 2011
edited by 00494d19
posted by 00494d19
"The supreme court ruled." - 002262dd, May 28, 2011
If you have a democracy, and the majority of the people vote in one way, anyone who protests that is protesting against democracy in favor of dictatorship. - rabbitwho, May 28, 2011
thanks joe, ruled, I hope I can remember that:) - 00494d19, May 28, 2011
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Seems quieter in Madrid or that's the implication from this El Pais article link text

Is that how it seems? Can you go through the Plaza?

updated May 28, 2011
posted by lagartijaverde
The protestors say on their facebook page they won't try to impede anybody shopping or anything, but i'd be afraid the police would mistake me for one and "kettle" me. (When they trap protestors in one area and don't allow them to leave) - rabbitwho, May 28, 2011
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Yes it's politically inept and as you say, will encourage support. How are things going in Madrid

updated May 28, 2011
posted by lagartijaverde