So what is the "brig"

Question

I have heard Bergatín to describe the brig on the Enterprise (spaceship). I have heard bergatín to describe the brig on a navy vessel.

So why does our dictionary say :

Brig:

Bergantín. (Marina)

Brig -> calabozo (prison)

That makes me think that if the brig is a prison (which it is) then it's called a calabozo. So why does it say "Bergantín. (Marina)" and what does that even mean? Brigs only exist on ships so Marina is a given, to me.

But what calabozo (prison) mean, that "Bergantín" is NOT a prison? Then it's not a brig right? But I always hear it called "Bergantín". So what is a calabozo?

Gracias

Answer 1

In English, brig is both a type of ship and the prison on a ship. The first is a bergantín the second is a calabozo.

Nice one, lorenzo9! - lazarus1907, May 24, 2011

Answer 2

Brig is a military term for prison. It is generally not the penitentiary for hardened criminals, but a temporary holding facility while someone awaits trial. Someone can also serve a sentence there, but it is for lesser offenses. When a service member is held in the "brig", that time is not counted towards their service. In the Enterprise's case, the brig would be an on-ship jail for someone who got in trouble.

Answer 3

Having been in one for excessive partying in my checkered past. the brig is simply "jail"I do not recommend the experience. Cárcel comes to mind as an equivalent.

Answer 4

And I don't care what anyone says: to me, NCC-1701-D was (er... will be?) the best Enterprise of the lot!

All the next models look alike anyway. That's the real classic. - lazarus1907, May 24, 2011

I remember as a kid they came door to door collecting signatures to petition the network not to cancel the show. - lorenzo9, May 24, 2011

Yeah.... I mean, I acknowledge all the breaking ground that the original Star Trek represented, and the interesting concepts within the various spinoffs. But this was the best ship, and Picard was *the* best captain! - Gekkosan, May 24, 2011

I still love the adventures - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011

Answer 5

I think on the Enterprise they are referring to 'the bridge' , which on ship is the place it is controlled from. link A brig is a type of sailing vessel link or, mostly in the US a priosn on board a ship link

They had a brig too. - lorenzo9, May 24, 2011

I suppose they had to have somewhere to put all the villains they picked up on other planets. - MaryMcc, May 24, 2011

Answer 6

In English, brig is both a type of ship and the prison on a ship. The first is a bergantín the second is a calabozo.

Fascinating. I have never heard of a type of ship called a brig, only a prison. Also I have heard the prison on the Enterprise and on a navy vessel called a bergatín, are you saying only calabozo is right for that, and perhaps the dubbers were off their game? Gracias.

Based on the rae definitions, yes. - lorenzo9, May 24, 2011

I think that the TV/movie industry relies heavily on macine translations despite having a huge number of readily availble native speakers. One of those 6 figure guys would only have to ask the person emptying his trash to get the correct answer. - lorenzo9, May 24, 2011

Of course, if his 7 figure boss found out, he might get fired. - lorenzo9, May 24, 2011

I agree with lorenzo: The "brig" on the Enterprise is "el calabozo". Never bergantín! - Gekkosan, May 24, 2011

Then I will delete Bergatín from my memory, which is sad because it reminded me of albergar. - jeezzle, May 24, 2011