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It is all about context, spanish grammar.

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Tengo la nariz en un libro otra vez.

Since I am working on my spanish grammar (quit laughing) I found a wonderful little Spanish grammar (in spanish) of course.

There are two phrases in context,at the beginning of the chapter.

Mi amigo está en la calle en cuestiones de política.

Mi Papa está en la calle platicando con el vecino.

One phrase is in actuality a metaphor ,the other is not. I struggled for quite a while before discovering the meaning of the metaphor.

Do you know which is the metaphor,and its meaning?

The answers are in the last post of the thread. Please offer your comments

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updated Dec 17, 2011
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
política (ignore our dictionary...look at R A E) - 0074b507, May 24, 2011
tengo mi nariz?? - 0074b507, May 24, 2011
Gfreed, I took the word "politica" direct from the book, the other is one of my $% typos Thanks. - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
Política should have an accent. - lazarus1907, May 24, 2011
I´ll fix that Lazarus. Please comment on my post about loose as a verb Mil gracias - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
Here's another tricky variation for you. Let's suppose that you say: "Mi amigo está en la calle por cuestiones de política" - what does it mean now? ;-) - Gekkosan, May 24, 2011
Yes I was looking at this ths morning, it means that he has lost everything due to political matters. I think i am on track with this, what say you? - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011

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The answers are:

The second statement is clear and simple Mi Papa está en la calle platicando con el vecino. is just what it says." My father is on the street chatting with the neighbor".

The first statement is metaphoric in Méxican spanish. "Mi amigo está en la calle en cuestiones de política."

"Estar en la calle" can have several meanings, the most common is to be penniless or broke. But also can mean that a person has no clue,knowledge or enlightenment in a given subject.

In the context given, the meaning is, "My friend has no knowledge in political matters" or in other words he is ignorant about political matters.

This is in accordance with: "Entienda La Gramática Moderna" Arcadio Moreno Aguilar, ediciones Larousse, México, 1985.

updated May 25, 2011
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
That was fun! - babs_irish, May 24, 2011
Thanks Babs! - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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Ok, paco, will you tell these good people the answer?

updated May 25, 2011
edited by Agora
posted by Agora
Por favor Agora un rato mas - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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"Mi amigo está en la calle en cuestiones de politica."

My friend is partaking in a political rally?

updated May 25, 2011
posted by NickDan
Frío Dan. I´ll post the answer later - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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Paco, I would say, from my knowledge of Spanish, that the first sentence is the metaphor, I am fairly certain of it grin However, I do not know what the metaphor means confused rolleyes smirk I will give it some thought and if I get any bright ideas I will post them raspberry

updated May 25, 2011
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
do that please I´ll post the answer after a while - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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My friend was fired because of police questions.

My dad is in the street talking to his neighbor.

The metaphor is the same in English.

(This has been a guess. If it had been real answer, you would know it. We now return to the regular SD posts.)

updated May 25, 2011
edited by lorenzo9
posted by lorenzo9
the first is close,the second is correct Thanks for your answer - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
It can also mean thrown out if it's not from a job. - lorenzo9, May 24, 2011
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He supports policies that favor "the man on the street" or "the common people," as opposed to the elite?

updated May 24, 2011
posted by gintar77
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Estoy en ascuas.

Another metaphor? smile

updated May 24, 2011
posted by Tosh
so many are so closebut not quite , it is quite simple really as so many of these things are when you dig into them - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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Your friend is in the street and he is a "lightning rod"... or he is "attracting attention".

updated May 24, 2011
edited by Tosh
posted by Tosh
Jejeje no Tosh in the street is coorect but why do we use "está en la calle" - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
Because that is his current location. - Tosh, May 24, 2011
Because he is down on his luck? - Tosh, May 24, 2011
no tosh the meaning is metaphoric in mexican spanish you are very close - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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He is in the middle of the road with no particular interest in the left or right. Kind of like me.

updated May 24, 2011
posted by Yeser007
Oye! you also ,on the street is correct but the reason is only close - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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He's on the street (homeless) because of his politics.

updated May 24, 2011
posted by jaimetayag
on the street is correct but the reason is not - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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He's upset about his income not being fair?

updated May 24, 2011
posted by Tosh
No Tosh, I´ll post it later! - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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He can't make up his mind?

updated May 24, 2011
posted by rabbitwho
noooo! - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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My friend is in the street about the questions of politics? (What does this mean, Paco)?

updated May 24, 2011
posted by sanlee
Jejeje paciencia Sandy - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011
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He's on the fence?

The so called "revolutionaries" have signs with "Take to the streets" written on them in both languages as well, so maybe it means the opposite, like GET OFF THE FENCE or maybe there they were being literal, as in "stop studying for your exams next month and come outside for a walk with us"

updated May 24, 2011
posted by rabbitwho
Frío Rabbit i will post it later for us - pacofinkler, May 24, 2011