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Irán dice que Bin Laden ya estaba en poder de E E.U U

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Irán dice que Bin Laden ya estaba en poder de E E.U U

El presidente de Irán dijo el anuncio de la muerte de Osama bin Laden es una acción de propaganda para dirigir el voto estadounidense.

El pasado 9 de mayo, el ministro iraní de Inteligencia, Heydar Moslehí, ya señaló que su país no cree la versión estadounidense, ya que posee, “información fidedigna” de que “murió hace tiempo de una enfermedad”.

From a Bolivian newspaper.

What should we believe?

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updated May 17, 2011
edited by Fidalgo
posted by ian-hill
Fixed: "Bib" Laden --> "(Osama) bin Laden" - Fidalgo, May 17, 2011
Gracias amigo - of course I meant "fib Laden" :)) - ian-hill, May 17, 2011
Nos puede regalar el vinculo por favor? - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011

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Debemos creer que el mundo está mucho mejor sin este desgraciado terrorista y francamente la manera en que se murió no es importante.

Sin embargo, todo lo que dice el presidente de Irán será al favor del terrorismo porque siempre lo ha soportado, pues sus pendejadas no tienen importancia.

updated May 17, 2011
posted by 005faa61
Julian, con todo el respeto los mismos terroristos que atacaron a los EEUU son enemifos de iran. iran jamas les dara apoya. jamas. - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
Fijate en este articulo de cbs: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/07/world/main4508360.shtml - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
Quizás Presidente Ahmadinejad no haya apoyado pubicamente Al Qaeda, pero ha otorgado armas a Hamas y al Taliban y aparte ha comentado que Israel no debe existir, además ha cometido atrocidades contra su propia gente. - 005faa61, May 17, 2011
Por estas razones digo que Ahmadinejad apoya el terrorismo. - 005faa61, May 17, 2011
No. No ha armado al taliban y toni blair lo admitio. pero estoy de acuerdo de que ha cometido atrocidades contra su propia gente. - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
Y ademas, no apoya al taliban en ninguna manera. ni publicamenty ni en privado. eso es un cuento de hada de los que no hagan el esfuerzo de distinguir entre la gente en el medio oriente - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
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It is difficult to know who and what to believe regarding such reports but it is highly likely that the president of Iran: Ahmadinejad would be trying to put a brave face on it and pretend that the death of Bin Laden had not happened. The muslim culture is a shame culture in the sense that it will do everything to avoid losing face in the eyes of the world! It is more than likely that Osama Bin Laden is really dead as reported. and that Ahmadinejad is ''in denial'' of the facts.

While I was uncomfortable about the manner of Bin Laden's death I am still relieved to know that will he no longer walk on this planet and be involved in the planning of the murder of countless number of innocent people, worldwide!. These terrorists invariably believe that the end, ie: their cause, justifies the means : blowing people up to achieve their distorted idea of agood society in which everyone they see as an enemy of Islam (or who will not convert to Islam) will be destroyed

Terrorists would expect mercy and perhaps even compassion from the west like when that man from Libya asked for compassion on the grounds of failing health but where is the compassion such terrorists show when their victims face an almost certain death? I am speaking of the Locekrbie disaster when a jumbo jet was blown up, over the Atlantic ocean I think. Or the twin towers in USA No-one will convince me that these monsters were thinking about theri victims or the families of their victims

One of the beliefs of Islam is that it is acceptable to say one thing to unbelievers whom they refer as the infidel and say something totally different to their own people In the face of such a duplicitous practice how could anyone trust a word that they say so I personally think that we should be very careful about believing anything that comes out of Iran who, incidentally have pledged that intention to destroy Isreal as a nation but they will not succeed (Isiah Ch 54 vs 14-17) Throughout history the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob has protected Isreal from annihilation (See book of Esther )

updated May 17, 2011
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
Totally incorrect. The Iranians despise al qaueda and all the other sunni terrorist groups. iran almost went to war with the taliban in 1998. don't just lump them together because they are all muslims. - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/07/world/main4508360.shtml - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
There may be some that do despise them and no I am not lumping them all together nor do I believe that they are all the same but tas a nation or people group they are very slow to condemn the atrocities practised in the name of Islam - FELIZ77, May 17, 2011
If more of them stood against those terrorists who claimed to be acting for Islam it would be much more easy to be convinced that they did no support the same ideology - FELIZ77, May 17, 2011
says who? another incorrect statement. allow some time to provide you the links, but for now look at this link with al queadas number 2 claiming iran as an enemy: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/09/zawahiri-denounces-iran-as-part-of-the-crusader-alliance.h - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
here is the link i promised: http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/91089.shtml - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
iran swiftly denounced the attacks and provided substantial intelligence aid to the US right after the attacks - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
"voted" Paul. - amykay, May 17, 2011
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Yesterday, I saw a man build a functioning 747 using a roll of duct tape and a single paper-clip. I took a video of the whole process. Unfortunately, right after that, an alien ship sucked up both the 747 and the man and somehow deleted everything off my video camera except for the first 30 seconds, which is just some clips of the duct tape and paper clip. The alien ship, of course, zipped off into outer space.

It's okay, though, because CBS News will air my story 50 times a day, and, each time they do, they will show the video clip of the tape and paper clip sitting on a table. Plus, later I will release some home movies of the man watching The Home Shopping Channel. I have requested that CBS News mute the sound on that video whenever they air that, which they have promised to do 50 times per day.

Oh, did I tell you that we found a large collection of Batman comic books in his room. It's not clear if he actually read the comic books or not. People that were close to him don't think he'd ever look at a Batman comic book. Apparently he was a devoted Marvel fan, so this was a shock to everyone.

I feel awful about the alien ship deleting the most important part of the video. Fortunately, I made a low-quality, 30-second CG animation of him building the plane. CBS News has agreed to air that 50 times a day, too.

updated May 17, 2011
edited by webdunce
posted by webdunce
It sounds like a very silly lie, whether it's true or not. - webdunce, May 17, 2011
Which one? Web's or the Iranian ones? :)) - ian-hill, May 17, 2011
Rofl.... wow, this sounds like my murder of the unicorn! It was crazy... i've still got the pictures hidden, and the DNA samples are safely preserved. ;-P - DJ_Huero, May 17, 2011
@Ian, the USA one about killing Osama, which shares several elements with my own. :-) - webdunce, May 17, 2011
@DJ...heh...these are fun. - webdunce, May 17, 2011
I find the Iranian story quite believable on the other hand. - webdunce, May 17, 2011
So will a lot of people in Iran - especially if you do. - ian-hill, May 17, 2011
And the Ameriacns did not land a man on the moon and blew up the twin towers themselves on the 11th of September - ian-hill, May 17, 2011
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President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been a prominate denier of the Holocaust, so he's not one of my primary sources of information.

updated May 17, 2011
posted by Leatha
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Al Qeada por si mismo dijo que su ex-lider es muerto gracias a la incursión de los SEALs.

updated May 17, 2011
posted by DonK
Es ceirto. - 001a2987, May 17, 2011
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I wonder what he said about the American claims that Islamic extremists were frequently found with stashes of pornography, including bin Laden. I don't know the Islamic laws on growing pot, but apart from the Taliban they seem to have no problem with opium.

updated May 17, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
ever read the history of the hashishoon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
it provides a historical context as to why the taliban accepts opium and hashish usage. - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
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Birthers redux.

If Obama said the sky was blue, they would disagree.

. . ,too bad about McCain not being a natural born American citizen. smile

updated May 17, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
but the sky isn't blue? i thought that was a bad choice by his speech writers. but i got the point - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
McCain was born on a military area in Panama. USA Military. He is a natural born citizen. - Felixlynx, May 17, 2011
I hope McCain runs again. That would be awesome! McCain-Jindal 2012! - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
McCain is most certainly not a natural born citizen. He was declared a citizen after he was born when he law changed. - lorenzo9, May 17, 2011
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Creo que solo Julian comprende lo que pasó. No importa que Osama murió, pero que el mundo podría ser un lugar mejor. La muerte de uno hombre no tiene importancia. Creo que EE.UU lo mató. Tal vez no lo mató. O eso o esto, Osama es muerto.

updated May 17, 2011
posted by Felixlynx
Osma es muerto, pero todavia sigue dos guerras en el nombre de terrorismo... - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
ver la muerte de bin laden como un paso hacia la paz es ridiculo. tal vez la justicia se ha hecho, pero la paz se queda lejos de nuestro mundo - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
Generalísimo estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo en este punto/asunto terrorismo va a continuar desafortunadamente, porque el grupo de locos que se llama Al Quaeda van a reclutar nuevos personas para aprender cómo asesinar personas en el nombre de Isl - FELIZ77, May 17, 2011
de Islam ( in Al Quaedas view not how otehrs mUslims would see it) - FELIZ77, May 17, 2011
Generalísimo are you a muslim yourself? - FELIZ77, May 17, 2011
es que la muerte de bin laden como martir hace mas facil el reclutamiento de nuevos miembros. y me parece que iran esta tratando de dificultar este reclutamiento por decir que murio de una enfermidad y no por luchando contra EEUU - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
i feel like my comment above might be a little offensive to some, so i'm going to delete it and say: no, i am not muslim. - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011
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Bueno, claro que Ahmadinejad no aceptará el cuento oficial de EE.UU. Además, Fijase en que Ahmadinejad no dice que murió en combate sino por una enfermidad. ¿Por que diría eso? A mi me parece que los iranis no quieren dar tanto merito a bin laden por reclamar que no murió como un mártir. Acuerdense que Bin Ladin y al Quaeda han sido un enemigo fuerte de iran y viceversa por decadas (no olvidense que los iranis y los arabes históricamente se han visto como competidores por lo menos y como enemigos a lo más.)

Mucha gente no se dan cuenta de que los iranís y los arabes no tienen los mismos metas y que, de hecho, al principio los iranis se reunieron con los estadounidenses para convenir una reunion de seguridad y compartir información sobre al quaeda y el taliban en Afghanistan directamente despeues de 9/11. En todo caso, me parece que el mensaje de Ahmadinejad no es para EE.UU sino para los terroristas arabes y el mundo arabe.

Pero si queremos saber la verdad, aqui se puede ver a Christiana Amanpour hace tres años diciendo que Bin Laden se queda en una vila Pakistani. Bien interesante:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ySteY3r9I

updated May 17, 2011
posted by la-araña-discoteca
And for the Spanish speakers, please feel free to correct my spelling, grammar, and word choice! Thanks! - la-araña-discoteca, May 17, 2011