Van a cantarnos / Van a cantar con nosotros

Question

Is there a rule about which vers can do this, Van a bailarnos / van a bailar con nosotros etc... do you see what I mean? Quieren lucharnos, quieren luchar con nosotros. It doesn't work with all verbs does it? Gracias.

Answer 1

Van a cantarnos / Van a cantar con nosotros

Different story though jeezle:

van a cantarnos: they are going to sing for us

Van a cantar con nosotros: they are going to sing with us

Answer 2

Hm no, I cannot see it working with all verbs, but it does work with some.

Van a cocinarnos algo. para nosotros

Van a bailarnos...well, sounds slightly weird, but this is possible.

But that would mean: for us, to show us, in front of us...

How would lucharnos fit in there

fight for us...that is put up a show for us....hmmmm, well no, does not work.

What if they were going to protect us by fighting for us? Just van a protegernos? It only means, like put on a show when it means for, like for our pleasure? Gracias. - jeezzle, May 4, 2011

Van a protegernos works. Van a traernos. Van a pasearnos. Van a alegrarnos. Van a engañarnos. Van a disfrazarnos.... It does work for a lot of things, but not everything. - Gekkosan, May 4, 2011

Answer 3

Different story though jeezle: van a cantarnos: they are going to sing for us Van a cantar con nosotros: they are going to sing with us

That is new information to me then. Good stuff. So then, does it work like "Van a cantar para nosotros. And does "Van a bailarnos" = "Van a bailar para nosotros" and odes "Van a lucharnos" = Van a luchar para nosotros" and does it work with every verb? Gracias.