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Allá en la mesa

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is this right in spanish?

allá en la mesa means over there on the table?

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updated Apr 23, 2011
edited by --Mariana--
posted by mestizo7

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If you look in the dictionary, it helps describe the difference.

Allá - "over there" in sense of a general area, or as the reference says "indica espacio"

Allí - "over there" in sense of a single location, or as the reference says "lugar determinado"

In this case, I would use "allí" because on the table is one location.

Hopefully someone could explain this better, until then, I hope this helps grin

It's a matter of context. If I'm standing in the kitchen at the stove and my wife asks me if her book is there by the stove, I can answer "no está aquí". She then asks me if the book is on the bar, which is a bit further away, I can answer "no está allí". Well, how about on the table, is it there? (which is in the dining room), I can answer "no, no está allá". There are three distinctly different locations in distance, even though we're in the same house.

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by Jack-OBrien
A very clear and helpful explanation. - faliron, Apr 23, 2011
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It's just a matter of distance. If something is here, right in front of me, it can be aquí, it it's a little further away (I can't quite reach it, perhaps), it can be allí (over there). For something even further away, it can be allá. It's a matter of perspective, allá can be over there on the table, or on the distant horizon.

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by Jack-OBrien
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Daniel:

You have number 1 and 2 mixed...it should be:

Here was the way I learned the 5 of these ...

  1. aquí: here (nearest)
  2. acá: here (nearer)
  3. ahí: there (a little less near)
  4. allí: there (even less near)
  5. allá: there (even farther away) -- "over there"
updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by chileno
You know I think you ar correct. I get mixed up. I think both "aqui" and "acá" are within the reach of the person talking. - Daniel, Apr 23, 2011
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but my cuban friend told his daughter muevete para allá and sientate allá, so are allí and allá synonmous?

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by mestizo7
I would imagine he was intending to give certain meaning to his request. Saying "Muevete por alla" means "move over there" as opposed to "move right there"; likewise, "sientate por alla" would be closer to "sit over there" instead of "sit right there" - ecantado44, Apr 23, 2011
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Rather than allá in spain it is aquel or aquellá depending on gender.

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by kenwilliams
Hmm? I have learned that "aquel and aquella" are demonstrative adjectives - or demo pronouns if modified with the accent on the stressed syllable. Allá and allí are adverbs. Am I mistaken? - Otravez, Apr 23, 2011
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Based on the explanations given, it seems to be a matter of the speaker's judgment about the magnitude of distance to "there." That judgment is "conveyed" by the choice of the adverb. Not everyone necessarily will agree with the judgment, or even care about it; it is something like the the sharps and flats between whole notes. To some a mistake between the tone of two whole notes may sound like a terrible "clinker." Others may wince a bit, but not think it an unforgiveable mistake and others may not even notice it. Thanks for the explanations. I

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by Otravez
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Here was the way I learned the 5 of these ...

  1. acá: here (nearest)
  2. aquí: here (near)
  3. ahí: there (a little less near)
  4. allí: there (even less near)
  5. allá: there (even farther away) -- "over there"

So I remembered these in this order nearest to farthest away.

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by Daniel
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If you look in the dictionary, it helps describe the difference.

Allá - "over there" in sense of a general area, or as the reference says "indica espacio"

Allí - "over there" in sense of a single location, or as the reference says "lugar determinado"

In this case, I would use "allí" because on the table is one location.

Hopefully someone could explain this better, until then, I hope this helps grin

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by Felixlynx
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I think it does mean "there." In fact I've been told and read that is the meaning. But there is also "allí" which is also "there." If someone who knows will explain the difference between them - I'd appreciate it. Thank you.

updated Apr 23, 2011
posted by Otravez