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Question about "si" and the subjunctive

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Right, so you know in English we say stuff like 'If i find the right person' or 'if i fall over' etc..it's in the present tense yes? But it's like talking about something that might/ might not happen in the future? This is where I am confused. I was just wondering how to say such sentences in spanish? Does it take the subjunctive because it's uncertainty? Si encuentro la person corecto...If i find the right person...that is how i would say it but i do not think I am right?..or am i? & does anyone know the rules of Si clauses and if so please could they explain them to me? Gracias xx

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updated Apr 22, 2011
edited by --Mariana--
posted by melissa1992
You're referring to *si* without the tilde. Sí as you wrote it is "yes." - Deanski, Apr 22, 2011
Thanks, I've edited it all now:) - melissa1992, Apr 22, 2011
Great.:) - Deanski, Apr 22, 2011

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IF and a past tense ............

If I were rich.......... I would etc...2nd conditional, unreal situation in the present

or

IF I had been rich.....I would have etc.., 3rd conditional, unreal situation in the past

will trigger the use of a subjunctive verb in Spanish.

Have a look at this thread 2nd conditional

updated Apr 22, 2011
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
It's confusing because English uses the past-plural to express present singular subjunctive - Lector_Constante, Apr 22, 2011
Not really Lector "were" is used for all persons. Many times "I, he, she, it was" etc. is used these days though. - ian-hill, Apr 22, 2011
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In if clauses the criteria for using the subjunctive or indicative mood is usually whether the if clause is viewed as real or contrary-to -fact (unreal).

*If I find the right person this is what I will* do. takes the indicative mood, because the if clause is seen as possible, and the rest just declares what you will do if it does, indeed, happen.

The same with "if I fall over, I will....". It takes the indicative mood as long as the condition is seen as possible to occur.

The subjunctive verb is used when the if clause is seen as impossible or completely theoretical. (contrary-to-fact)

If I were rich (I am not; completely theoretical) then this is what I would do.

Notice that in the first two that the if clause is in present tense. In the subjujctive one the if clause verb is in the past tense while rest of the sentence refers to present or future time.

conditional if clauses

updated Apr 22, 2011
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
Very good explanation; however, I might suggest that although the subjunctive part of the sentence is conjugated in the "past" subjunctive, this does not necessarily place the event in the past. - Izanoni1, Apr 22, 2011
Ahh, "If I were King" is present subjunctive and means "Suppose I am King" - Lector_Constante, Apr 22, 2011
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Great question!

Welcome to the forum, Melissa.

updated Apr 22, 2011
posted by --Mariana--
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Thanks so much everyone for your help smile xx

updated Apr 22, 2011
posted by melissa1992
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Qfreed has already given a nice explanation. Aside from this, you might find the DPD entry for si useful, especially sections 1.1 (including 1.1.1, 1.1.2a and 1.1.2b). The entry is in Spanish, but translating it into English will not only provide you with invaluable information but will also be a good exercise in and of itself (and if you have any trouble translating it, you could always post your questions on the forum).

updated Apr 22, 2011
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
Thanks, Ira...that's great. - --Mariana--, Apr 22, 2011
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updated Apr 22, 2011
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