What is "Ingeniería de partida"

Question

Hi there, Can anybody help me with a description of what "Ingeniería de partida" is or the equivalent expression in English?

Thanks...

Answer 1

Sorry, but that has to be the dumbest suggestion possible and borderline offensive.

Do you really think I would have asked the question if I hadn't gone through all the possibilities? I know what all the words mean individually, but the expression as a whole is more than a collection of three individual words.

So, what was your point in replying? You didn't even offer your idea on what it was... come on wise man, share your wisdom. Tell me the answer, don't just insult my intelligence and tell me I'm lazy and that I should look the words up individually in a dictionary!

Very disappointed in the quality of the response.....

I am sorry you took offence at my answer. We get people here all the time that are too lazy to look up answers so indeed I did think you were just another one of those. You might have noticed that even though I thought you were a dumb lazy idiot, - Ron_Austin, Apr 20, 2011

I still answered you with courtesy and consideration. Surely if you have looked up the words you should be able to ask a better question than the one you did. Perhaps putting the question in context might be a smart move. - Ron_Austin, Apr 20, 2011

Don't worry, I'll take my question to a more professional forum. - oolitka, Apr 20, 2011

Seems like you are the unprofessional one. I think no matter where you go, if you respond like you did in this thread, then you will be a very unpopular fellow. - Ron_Austin, Apr 21, 2011

I'm not going to get into a slanging match. Just look at your first response and decide for yourself whether it was useful. Goodnight. - oolitka, Apr 21, 2011

Indeed, my first answer was useful and diplomatic. Your first response was antagonistic. You should not visit a site to ask for help and then say that the answer is stupid. That conveys a very immature attitude. - Ron_Austin, Apr 21, 2011

If your first answer was so helpful and diplomatic, why is that it got ZERO votes and my response to you does have replies? I don't want to be offensive, but I still don't see the value in your response. - oolitka, Apr 21, 2011

Oolitka - Don't be so incredibly defensive. Ron - Don't assume things about people. Now can we all just forget this happened and not waste the time of two intelligent people? - Felixlynx, Apr 21, 2011

Answer 2

For anybody who is interested I have now found out the correct term, which incidentally wouldn't be found by entering the words individually and putting them together as seems to be the suggested response. I too could "guess" what it meant, what I needed was the correct terminology to put into a document.

So as not to deprive the community of a piece of information that may serve someone in the future, the correct phase is "Early stage engineering" with or without a hyphen between early and stage.

Answer 3

"de partida" means "from the beginning" in most contexts, including this one, and comes from one of the defintions of partida, namely departure.

For the case of engineering, there are several points of view on what the beginning is:
Is it deciding what problem to try and solve?
Is it deciding how to solve it?
Is it designing a prototype?
Is it the requirements definition phase?
Is it the top level design phase?

Answer 4

Yes it could. However, given the context (which was my error not to give more context), on this occasion it is the early stage engineering.

The text that follows the title I asked about is:

"La Ingeniería de Definición (Ingeniería Básica) del proyecto que fue desarrollada por (XXX) se encuentra en el Anexo"

so from this you can see that it is not an engineering certificate on this occasion, however your suggestion is valid (and useful!). Thanks

I believe what the majority of the people asking questions at this site are looking for ,is not an easy and quick answer,but rather how the native speakers use and interprete something.Dictionaries and tranlations offer only that much. - faliron, Apr 21, 2011

Answer 5

Not sure if this is the same thing, but if it is I would describe it as the Engineering Proposal.

La partida de ingeniería (see chapter 2)

La partida de ingeniería contempla todo aquel importe relacionado con el proyecto y el diseño del molde sin contar con su ejecución.

So it would be the basic definition of the project and it's impact before the Scope of Works was created.

Answer 6

As partida also means certificate ,could also the quote mean "engineering certificate"? just asking.

Answer 7

I suggest that you type the three words into the dictionary (located at the top of the page) one at a time and it should give you some idea of what a Ingeniería de partida is.

I tried it and I have some idea what it is, but it is still a little cloudy. Perhaps after you look the words up you will have more questions to ask.

I am sure several people here could give you a better answer, but I, and many others here believe that if you look something up you will get a better understanding and if you get in the habit of looking things up for yourself you will become wiser.