Could you check my translations, please?
1) They hug each other every time they see each other.
Ellos se abrazan cada tiempo ellos se ven uno a otro.
2) Sometimes when I can't sleep, I tell myself a story until I am very tired and I fall asleep.
A veces cuando no puedo dormir, me digo una historía hasta que estoy muy cansada y me duermo.
3) After kissing each other passionately, she went away and never returned.
Despues se besan apasionadamente, ella se va y nunca regresa.
¡Gracias!
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1) They hug each other every time they see each other.
Ellos se abrazan cada vez que se ven (el uno al otro).
2) Sometimes when I can't sleep, I tell myself a story until I am very tired and I fall asleep.
A veces cuando no puedo dormir, me cuento una historia hasta que estoy muy cansada y me duermo.
3) After kissing each other passionately, she went away and never returned.
Despues de besarse apasionadamente, ella se fue y nunca regresó.
Dakie, in Spanish, when you say "Despues de besarse apasionadamente, ella se fue y nunca regresó" implies that she kissed herself...even in English, it seems a tad off. Qfreed?
I answered this, but it seems to have disappeared. Let me try again.
Tom,
The answer is context or as some people insist on labeling verbs, they categorize the verbs as reflexive verbs vs reciprocal verbs. Besarse would be labeled as a reciprocal verb, not a reflexive verb. (reciprocity only pertains to plural nos, os and se). Therefore, besarse, is understood to be plural, reciprocal usage, rather than single, reflexive (she kissed herself) from context. One cannot kiss oneself. You can kiss your hand, or foot, but that is transitive. You cannot kiss yourself on the lips so besarse is recognized as having a reciprocal meaning or just labeled a reciprocal verb. If you do wish to express singular, reflexiveness: a mí mismo, a sí mismo, etc. is used.
Here is a slide that I captured from a powerpoint presentation online. The only thing to note is that they categorized the verbs as reflexive or as a reciprocal verb based on whether the context made sense. Besarse is labeled as a reciprocal verb. I would rather just say that its meaning is taken from context and that she kissed herself is meaningless.
While complaining about labels for verbs, I found a few articles online that I wanted to post to explain this implied reciprocity from context. I didn't because of the confusion that I saw arising from the misuse of the word reflexive when pronominal (verb+reflexive pronoun) was meant. Discussions talked about using the reflexive form to express reciprocity when they meant the pronominal form, etc. The problem with calling these verbs reflexive verbs versus reciprocal verbs is fraught with the same problems as labeling verbs used pronominally as reflexive verbs. They are all the same verbs and simply used pronominally, reflexively, or reciprocally.
There is a previous thread on this, but I have no idea how to find it. Now you need to read the discussion posted a few hours ago on the need for a better search engine.
Q

Excellent post, Qfreed; thanks. I am aware of everything you've said.
However, out of context, even if it makes no sense to say "she kissed herself", that sentence in Spanish seems off...to me, just my pet peeve. Let's just put it this way...if I had been the one coming up with a sentence for that exercise, I would have chosen it from earlier in the text, say :"Jaime y Alana se miraron con intensidad, y despues de besarse apasionadamente, ella se fue y nunca regresó"
Like you said, context. (That's what threw me off)
Big hug, buddy!