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Is anyone else concerned about the effect text messaging has on language?

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Okay, call me old-fashioned, but I see language as having two functions – communication and art. I believe art has a license to “bend” rules and definitions to provide thoughtful or amusing stimulus. But I believe communication should be succinct, precise, and unambiguous.

That is the reason I have become concerned about the effect text messaging and “tweeting” appears to be having on all languages. If you cruise the forum on any regular basis, you will find it replete with requests to translate phrases that carry incorrect spelling, punctuation, and grammar. They are often ambiguous, at best, and require significant context before beginning to decipher. Yet the member requesting the translation appears to expect a perfect translation. What could they possibly expect, when they can’t understand the message themselves?

I searched the archives and found a thread with a similar lament last year, but I wanted to bring it up again.

Cuando era joven, aprendimos el código morse (Morse code), un método de comunicación que usa puntos y rayas, pero seguimos siempre las reglas de la estructura de la frase.

¿Qué te parecen estas cosas?

(I may have caused more damage to the language with that last paragraph, but feel free to correct me. Soy estudiante.)

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updated Mar 25, 2011
edited by 0066c384
posted by 0066c384
yes I understand morse, required for an offshore license! I think I forgot most of it though - pacofinkler, Mar 24, 2011
y r u rjectin Lng ovrdue spellin reform? - rabbitwho, Mar 25, 2011

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Cuando era joven, aprendimos la clave telegráfica de Morse (Morse code), un método de comunicación que usa puntos y rayas, pero seguimos siempre las reglas de la estructura de la frase.

It is easier to say "aprendimos (el código) morse".

The phrase "los efectos..." is the subject of the verb "parecer", so you can't use prepositions (i.e. "sobre"), and it should agree with it.

¿Qué te parece esta cosa?

¿Qué te parecen estas cosas?

I personally think that text messaging is not helping with spelling, although it seems almost inevitable. But, who knows? Maybe English spelling will improve thanks to this, hehe.

Linguists like David Crystal do not believe that it is harmful, by the way.

updated Mar 25, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
Gracias! :) - 0066c384, Mar 24, 2011
Thank you for your comment, too. - 0066c384, Mar 24, 2011
Your comments are always well taken Lazarus! - pacofinkler, Mar 24, 2011
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Yes. I have commented on this before and made the comparison to calculators and their impact on math.

updated Mar 25, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
Thank you! :) - 0066c384, Mar 24, 2011
Yes, and some of my college-educated software engineer colleagues don't understand how to use a basic slide rule... :( - pesta, Mar 24, 2011
I know but it's been a long time since the last time I even saw a slide rule. - samdie, Mar 24, 2011
Slide rules dont quit working,calculators do,know your math and all you need is your mind and your pencil - pacofinkler, Mar 24, 2011
Slide rules and calculators just do arithmetic, which has little to do with math other than providing a conceptual foundation. - lorenzo9, Mar 24, 2011
When I was in the Army, we calculted firing data for Howitzers using slip-sticks. :) - 0066c384, Mar 24, 2011
The flip side of the coin is that with modern software it takes more computer power than the entire Apollo project to edit a one page document. - lorenzo9, Mar 24, 2011
But I can still write you an editor than runs in 8k :~) - Jack-OBrien, Mar 24, 2011
But can I buy a computer that will boot with only 8K? - lorenzo9, Mar 25, 2011
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There has been more than a few comments on this. In my opinion only, text and chat talk is correctly used in those specific environments. DO NOT let it into your speech and grammar,in the buisness world, it is inappropriate and is a real "turn off" when applying for a job. I would never even review the application for work of an engineer that cannot communicate in standard english-or spanish.I don't care how qualified the person is, if the person cannot communicate in standard language that person is not considered. Punto!

updated Mar 24, 2011
posted by pacofinkler
I agree completely. :) - 0066c384, Mar 24, 2011
I think I would interview someone who had the guts to say "All your base are belong to us" on a job application. - lorenzo9, Mar 24, 2011
Not a chance,in my world - pacofinkler, Mar 24, 2011
I guess it depends on your sense of humor. I used the phrase ´"Once upon a time" in an SPR when the guy didn't understand it the first time. - lorenzo9, Mar 24, 2011
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Depending on whether your a "glass half full/empty" sort of personality, you can take some comfort from the notion that at least half of the current "text-speak" will disappear within a generation or be depressed that as much as half may survive.

If history is any guide, (even without the internet) the English of a hundred years from now would give you, at least, occasional difficulties and the English of two/three hundred years hence, serious problems. Move out five/six centuries and it will, almost certainly, be very hard to understand.

updated Mar 24, 2011
posted by samdie
Language ,at least english is a moving target, the oxford english will soon be loose leaf. - pacofinkler, Mar 24, 2011
I understandeth from whence thou cometh. :) - 0066c384, Mar 24, 2011