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La razón no se discute

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Alguien me recordó ayer esta frase tan útil en la vida: "La razón no se discute". Cuando uno sabe de sobra que tiene la razón, no vale la pena esforzarse para convencer a nadie de lo contrario. Si la otra persona insiste, pues se ignora y ya está.

La otra cara de la moneda es saber reconocer, sin ninguna mezquindad, que nos equivocamos cuando ése sea el caso. Y ofrecer una disculpa.

¿Opiniones, sugerencias?


Someone reminded me yesterday of a phrase that I find rather useful (La razón no se discute). It made me think of a quote by Martin Luther King Jr.:"When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative."

I think it all boils down to the fact that it is not worth it to try to convince someone else that you are right (when you know you are). If the other person insists or provokes you, you're better off ignoring them.

The other side of the coin is to be brave enough to admit when you make a mistake and apologize if possible.

Comments or suggestions?

wink

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updated Mar 5, 2011
edited by gone
posted by gone
On the translation or the counsel? - 0074b507, Mar 5, 2011
I am looking mostly for your opinion. It can be a good Spanish exercise. - gone, Mar 5, 2011
Excellent post usarenzo...Hope you are doing well amigo - 0043ad50, Mar 5, 2011

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Me parece que muchas veces lo difícil no es comprender la sabidurá de aquellos refranes sino distinguir a cuál cara de la moneda está relacionado con sí mismo.

Eso me recuerda otra frase también:

«El peor tropiezo...es ese terrible hábito mental que siempre se aferra a los puntos malos de una persona ya sus defectos más notorios y pasa completamente por alto lo bello que está escondido en él.»

En cuanto a eso, creo que debemos tener cuidado para no caer en la trampa que a menudo tiende nuestro orgullo para nosotros, es decir que muchas veces, si nos equivocamos o no, lo más difícil es «to swallow our pride» y dejarnos ver lo mejor, o sea, la belleza de la otra persona.


To me, it often seems like the hardest part is not in understanding the wisdom of those sayings but rather in distinguishing which side of the coin falls to us.

It reminds me of something else I have read:

The worst stumbling-block is that terrible mental habit of always clinging to the most notorious flaws and defects in a person's character and missing entirely the beauty that is hidden within.

Along that vein, I believe that we ought to be careful to not fall into the trap that our pride often sets to ensnare us, that is to say that often, whether we are right or wrong, the hardest thing is to swallow our pride and allow ourselves to see the best, or rather, the beauty within the other person.


Como siempre, corregid mi español, por favor. smile

updated Mar 5, 2011
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
Muy elocuente tu comentario, además de agudo. Me ha servido de mucho. ¡Gracias! - gone, Mar 5, 2011
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I agree with a combination of Renzo's and Izan's statements.

I think it all boils down to the fact that it is not worth to try to convince someone else that you are right (when you know you are). If the other person insists or provokes you, you're better off ignoring them.

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The worst stumbling-block is that terrible mental habit of always clinging to the most notorious flaws and defects in a person's character and missing entirely the beauty that is hidden within.

Me parece que muchas personas luchan con otros cuando tienen inseguridades.

It seems to me that many people fight/struggle with others when they have insecurities.

In my experience, I have found that when people are continually argumentative or constantly provoking others, this is a symptom of a deeper insecurity. I believe we all have a right to stand up for our convictions and to express our point of view. However, when it gets to the point where someone just can't let something go, then it has crossed a line. If you "have to be right" if you have to have "the last word", maybe you are not as secure in what you believe as you think. So I agree with the wisdom that says if we believe in our hearts that something is right, there really is no need to push the issue any further. I also agree that we do have to admit when we are wrong. Nothing makes a person look more foolish than when they can't admit that they have been wrong about something. I have great respect for those who can eat humble pie now and again.

I also think Ira's words are excellent. Sometimes, we can become so upset with a person, that we lose sight of the fact that there is some beauty within them. I also think it is wise to realize that some people are crankier than others because of life experiences that we don't even know about. It think it all boils down to dealing with difficult people with a sense of calmness and balance.

updated Mar 5, 2011
edited by Nicole-B
posted by Nicole-B
Please correct my mistakes. :) - Nicole-B, Mar 5, 2011
Nicole. I enjoyed reading your point of view. Thanks for sharing such an insightful answer. - gone, Mar 5, 2011
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In my experience, I have found that when people are continually argumentative or constantly provoking others, this is a symptom of a deeper insecurity.

Thanks Nicole, always so to the pointwink

Provoking is some people's aim in life, we must just bear them I guess, jeje

updated Mar 7, 2011
posted by 00494d19
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Por eso se dice "Solo un tonto gana un argumento."

That´s why it is said "Only a fool wins an argument."

updated Mar 5, 2011
posted by 005faa61
This is because they have so much practice. - 192flat, Mar 5, 2011
Good one! - 005faa61, Mar 5, 2011
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I'd have said "La fe no se discute pero la razón, sí se discute""

updated Mar 5, 2011
posted by samdie
¿La razón de raciocinio? Yo me refiero a tener la razón o estar en lo cierto. - gone, Mar 5, 2011