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¿Estás orgulloso de ser de donde eres?

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A ver, hablemos.

En los Estados Unidos, donde resido, es muy común hablar del origen de tu familia. Y lo dicen con mucho orgullo: Ej. "Soy americano de origen francés, italiano y escocés".

¿De dónde viene tu familia?


OK. Let's talk..

Here in the United States it's common practice to say where your family is from. And people take great pride saying it. i.e."I am American. A mix of French, Italian and Scottish."

Where is your family from?

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updated Mar 5, 2011
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Renzo has olvidado de decirnos ¿de dónde vienes tú? ¿y los parientes? - margaretbl, Mar 4, 2011
Listo, Margarita. Ahora te toca a ti. - gone, Mar 4, 2011
Its the "evil spell" again. - pacofinkler, Mar 4, 2011
parientes = relatives; padres = parents - Deanski, Mar 4, 2011

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Well, you could say, my family have mixed blood My parents were both born in the north east of England in the county/shire of Northumberland and my mother's father was half Scottish with a clan (family name) of Macdonald not to be confused with the Irish Mcdonald or even Mc Donalds (Ronald McDonald's fast food restaurant chain ) tongue wink tongue rolleye LOL grin

One of my sisters was born in Ireland and my family may have some other tenuous (loose) ancestral connections with that country

As for me, many of you probaby already know that I was born in Peru. wink grin grin and am pleased to have connections with the hispanic people through the country of my birth My dad has told me on several occasions that had he not registered my birth with the British embassy in Lima I would have been totally Peruvian. I have certainly wished, many a time that I had been given the opportunity to live out there for longer eg at least 12 years I might well have been fluent in Spanish before coming to England, Still, when you are barely 2 years of age you can hardly argue with your parents and say I am staying out here... you can go back home to England if you wish ! lol confused rolleyes smile Well , I know you could lol try but seriously how many toddlers could survive out there on their own? confused rolleyes smirk

Still, with the help of many natives here and elsewhere I truly hope that I can fullfil my dream one day of becoming a fluent (non-native? ) Spanish speaker wink smile grin

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posted by FELIZ77
You know what... if you were born there, you are Peruvian just of the English decent. I say you're a native, just don't speak the language due to extended absence. ;-) ¡Orale por orgullo latino! jaja - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
descent (not the word decent .. not that I am not decent though lol) - FELIZ77, Mar 4, 2011
Bueno, puedo hablar Español, :) pero no con fluidez, todavía - FELIZ77, Mar 4, 2011
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Indeed it is. I guess I would be Cajun Spaniard & German mix. Lol

Mom's side of the family still have some in Spain and some in Louisianna (where she's from, and my accent if you ever hear me on Skype) so that's why I say Cajun Spaniard. Dad's family is of German decent, but they've been in America alot longer. smile

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Afowen I would like to respond to your interesting and slightly provacative comment

Pride is used in different ways with different meanings When people talk of being proud of their roots/heritage I understand it as being pleased about where you are born or your ancestry...being pleased iabout where you were born is not a sin!

I believe that the Pride is only a sin when it becomes an attitude of heart where the person becomes haughty and arrogant and looks down on others with a superior air of disdain and contempt . This is the kind of attitude that God the Father hates. where the person is lifted up in their heart... and considers themselves much better than others. Where a person shows such pride and arrogance by doing so they show contempt for their creator.

Afowen, as one of many Christians I use the bible as my foundation and source of what is true and good and right not the opinions or knowledge of man (-kind) which have/has been elevated often in self-righteous pride against their creator as if to say what do you know about us? God would answer: well everything actually since i created you!

Yes there is much to be ashamed of when we look at the past history of human beings throughout most countries of the world: things that many people today would say should never have happened: the crusades, the holocaust, Viatnam, Hiroshima atom bomb etc...but we are not responsible, individually or corporately for what others have done, but we will one day have to stand before God and give account for how we as individuals have lived our own life.

Finally, there are many good things to be thankful for in this world: medical and technological breakthroughs, people who still care for others and save people's lives from fires etc our health services, fresh water and fresh air I could go We can either focus on the positive and inspire people to do greater things in this world to help others or we can become so cynical and depressed and drag people down seeing teh worst of people the choice is ours!

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posted by FELIZ77
Feliz - you last sentence does not give the only 2 options. Doing neither of those things is also an option - ian-hill, Mar 4, 2011
They are not mutually exclusive. - ian-hill, Mar 4, 2011
No Ian, but the point is that we can choose to live life postively or negatively. The alternatives to these two lifestyles would still be relative points long a spectrum of postitive or negiative We can split hairs about the degrees of good or bad - FELIZ77, Mar 4, 2011
but people at the end still will be choosing good or bad - FELIZ77, Mar 4, 2011
Ian, so what would you suggest would be an viable alternative to these two lifestyle choices? - FELIZ77, Mar 4, 2011
Hi Feliz. Their is a big difference between being content or happy about something and being proud. Neither of the former are synonyms for the latter and I'm sure if people simply wanted to state happiness or contentment then they'd use those words... - afowen, Mar 5, 2011
Yes we can subcategorise pride but pride still lies at the root and pride, as well as coming before a fall, has its consequences, just as Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Whilst these consequences might not be... - afowen, Mar 5, 2011
... immediately obvious, they are there. I guess that this is the reason that religions tell you that it is something to avoid and that pride is on the list of things to leave behind of those seeking enlightenment or even a little self improvement - afowen, Mar 5, 2011
*there - afowen, Mar 5, 2011
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Does anyone else find it odd that many philosophies, religious or otherwise, and thoughts born of the understanding of psychology, maintain that pride is a 'bad' thing, yet it is so common for people to express their pride in so many things.

I see little value in being proud of where you are from. It serves to highlight the differences between those from where you are from and those others who are not.

Also, who is fooling whom? To be proud of something you've done, although I'd argue is not a particularly enlightened goal, is at least understandable from the point of view of the ego.

To be proud of you country? Based on what? Based on the achievements of others over whom you have no influence. Based on historical events. On what basis can one claim to be proud of things done in the past, by others...

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Scathing, really? :-) I'm not criticising the post, nor Rezno, rather questioning. Talking of pride is very common, as is Christianity of which pride is one of its '7 capital vices', why would this be so? - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
Scathing commentary... you got to originate somewhere...I think the "pride" is one of connection to forebears, not one of nationality, and unfortunately, we do have political lines drawn all around the globe, do so before we were twinklings in dad's eye! - cristalino, Mar 4, 2011
So on what are you basing your pride of those who came before you. You have no choice nor influence in the matter, it makes as much sense as me being proud of my neighbour for buying a new car. Also, I'd wager that when we chose to be proud, we... - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
... ignore the rape and pillage, the oppression and other crimes against humanity carried out by our forefathers and focus on the cool stuff - hardly a balanced point of view on which to chose to 'feel pride' :-) - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
To simply answer you're question, your proud to have the chance to be a part of a nationality that you obviously care for and appreciate. That's how I see and understand it. - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
Kind of like being into royalty. You see your nationality as something special that you've been born into and it's something to be happy (aka proud of). It's all a matter of opinion. Pride Does Not Equal Fact.... remember that. ;-P - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
Sorry folks, my thought process is outpacing my ability to type well... je je [first comment above: done instead of do] - cristalino, Mar 4, 2011
And how do you deal with the fact that you are taught that pride is, to many, a deadly sin? :-) - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
@afowen: I am with you to an extent... I am apolitical for the most part but will occasionally beam with a little "pride" when asked about those who came before me. Proud that they were good people who just happened to be from Ireland, Spain, Mexico, etc - cristalino, Mar 4, 2011
Whoa, so many comments posted then deleted :-) - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
Yo DJ. My nationality is little more than fact to me. We've evolved to feel a greater affinity to those in our tribe, for survival purposes, I'm sure pride in ancestry is closely linked to that. Few of us live in tribes any more and with a little... - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
... introspection one can consider the consequences of such base emotions, then chose what to do with them. Christianity for one has chosen to banish pride, something that should be of utmost relevance to many on this site... - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
Well, I'm a Christian, and I believe you're misunderstanding the wording. It's talking about being boastful and prideful, in a negative manner... as in, putting others down or complimenting yourself at their cost. - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
It never says its wrong to be proud or take pride in something. =) - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
Deej. maybe you should do a little more research :-) - from Wikipedia - In almost every list Pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris, is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and the source of the others. It goes on... - afowen, Mar 4, 2011
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Pride in our roots? why not!. My father was Born in a small town in the north of Germany and immigrated with his parents in the very early 1900's. We cannot find any records of their immigration.They might have been "illegals" who knows. My mother ,born in Hungary. immigrated with her parents and siblings in 1911. Both of myparents were just more than "babes in arms when they came. I recall that both german and hungarian were spoken at home , as well as english when I was a child.

I feel a bit like Renzo in that I have worked ( long term) meaning a year more or less, in 12 countries around the world, finally landing (back) in México when I retired. I hardly know where I am from anymore. The best experiences in my life have been associating with, and learning about the countries, cultures, and attitudes of the people.

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I wish for any oppurtunity like that... lol. - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
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usarenzo... ¿de dónde vienes güey? grin

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"Güey" Great D.J . - pacofinkler, Mar 4, 2011
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DJ Huero said:

usarenzo... ¿de dónde vienes güey?

I am a walking UN. I am Venezuelan-American. My mother was German. My father is Venezuelan (a mix between Spanish from the Canary Islands and Venezuelan indian). I was born in Venezuela but raised in the US. Have lived in Italy, France, and Brazil. So I no longer know where I am from. wink

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ROFL... good stuff. Interesting life, I must say i'm jealous... jaja. America becomes so mundane after a few years. - DJ_Huero, Mar 4, 2011
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Afowen

I was about to respond to this thread but luckily read your post first.

I think you "hit the nail" on the head.

I was born in England of English parents who had Irish and Fench ancesters.

I am not ashamed to be English or even British but how or why should I be proud?

I had no part in it.

updated Mar 5, 2011
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posted by ian-hill
Innit! I feel fortunate to have been born where and when I was. I am happy to visit home. I feel warmed when amongst familiar culture and enjoy sharing all of this with others. Four positive emotions and let them suffice... - afowen, Mar 5, 2011