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Do you actually use the ''usted'' form?

Do you actually use the ''usted'' form?

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Hi everybody,smile

Today I was having a little chat with a Spanish speaker I think she's a young girl, and I was very confused whether to use the ''usted'' form or the ''tú'' form!

So what do you think?

When you have a chat with someone new who's in your same age do you actually use the usted form?

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updated Mar 4, 2011
posted by 00b6f46c
Please correct my mistakes, thanks :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
Good run of answers Lovely and very helpful. - pacofinkler, Mar 2, 2011
Just a small correction lovely: it's better to say: someone who "is in your same age group" or "is the same age as you" :) - athegr8, Mar 2, 2011
Thanks pacofinkler :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 4, 2011

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Being reared by Mexican grandparents, you always used Usted when in doubt... by that I mean, if you suspect the other person is much younger than you, then even if you were to address him/her with Ud., many times they will make the adjustment if the situation allows... using Ud. is a sign of respect in México and showing respect can never be faulted! wink

updated May 12, 2011
posted by cristalino
I concur. - gone, Mar 2, 2011
Great information thanks a lot :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
I agree. The situation dictates the usage of tú/Ud. just as much as the age difference does - 005faa61, Mar 2, 2011
Agreed - pacofinkler, Mar 2, 2011
Ditto! - Silvia, Mar 2, 2011
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I tend to agree with Cristalino and Usarenzo, although I think Afowen is perhaps exaggerating a bit. Anyway I have already stated elsewhere that I find the use of "usted" in Colombia to be rather confusing.

I don't particularly like to use "usted", because I prefer informal relationships. But being in business, I must use "usted" every day. And as Cristalino and Usarenzo indicate, whenever the (business) relationship is new - sometimes personal relationships as well - it is always safer to start out with usted. It quickly becomes evident when switching to "tú" is agreeable to both parties.

Now going back to Colombia and other cultures: the use of "usted" does not necessarily mean that the relationship is formal. I am currently waging a battle of wills with my assistant, for example, because she was reared in a culture where everyone treats each other as "usted". So she uses "usted" with me, even though our relationship is pretty friendly and informal. I absolutely hate it, but she feels very uncomfortable using "tú", so I have resorted to addressing her as "usted", also.

In short, there is no hard and fast rule. When unsure, I agree that it is safer to use "usted". If "tú" is more appropriate, you will soon be corrected and everything will be fine. But it is much better to be corrected and asked to please use "tú", than to be told that "tú" is inappropriate and that you must use "usted".

updated Apr 21, 2011
edited by gone
posted by Gekkosan
Music to my ears (or eyes in this case)! Very nicely put, my lizard friend! - cristalino, Mar 2, 2011
Very helpful thanks Gekkosan :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
No exaggerating. Why would I do that in a forum meant to inform. I have over 20 Colombian male business partners aged between 25 and 30, the majority use usted and at the same time say marica huebon every few breaths i.e. is is not a formal environment. - afowen, Mar 2, 2011
An exaggeration might have been to say Colombia. To rectumfy: in Bogotá amongst middle class males aged above lets say 20 to be on the safe side.... - afowen, Mar 2, 2011
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Well, in Costa Rica it seems everyone is usted, even the dog!

updated Mar 3, 2011
posted by terra-ist
jaja, good answer. - Dakie, Mar 2, 2011
lol thanks terra-ist! - 00b6f46c, Mar 3, 2011
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i'm puerto rican raised to use "usted" as a show of respect, until the other person allows you to "tutealo" meaning they ask you to use "tu". smile

updated Mar 3, 2011
posted by nnieves
Nice way nnieves! Thanks :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
Welcome to the forum, :) - 00494d19, Mar 3, 2011
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Most of the time, yes. The rule here is that if in English you would address this person as Ms. X, then you would use usted.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by gone
Interesting Usarenzo, thanks :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
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I am just in my forth week in Spanish and my teacher says to use Usted most of the time, especially if you don't know the person or an authoritative person, it does show more respect to use it. To be safe only use the Tú form with family or friends. grin

updated Mar 3, 2011
edited by Paloma1969
posted by Paloma1969
Si, escuche a la maestra! - Silvia, Mar 2, 2011
"Fourth" for 'forth'... just second nature! :) - cristalino, Mar 2, 2011
Great paloma thanks :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 3, 2011
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No, you don't lovely, NOT in Spain.

However, it is always used when you talk to doctors, funnily enough, the doctors often talk to their patients, even when they are old ladies and gentlemen, with the "tú" formbig surprise

But it is a fact that in Spain, we hardly ever use the usted unless it is a work atmosphere.

updated Mar 3, 2011
edited by 00494d19
posted by 00494d19
I beg to differ in this case, as it seems Ud. is rarely used in Spain...perhaps other Hispanic countries can chime in, but Spain appears to be the exception (along with Vosotros).... - cristalino, Mar 2, 2011
I agree Heidi Many natives in Spain that I know have encouraged me to use the tú form. In chatrooms I do the same and hav not been challenged or corrected about that - FELIZ77, Mar 2, 2011
So no usted in Spain! thanks a lot Heidi :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
sorry, poor phrasing, I meant to say NOT in Spain, in other countries the usted form is the norm actually, even among friends or family - 00494d19, Mar 3, 2011
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All the time, indubitably yes, when I am addressing someone older than me whether I know him or not.

updated Mar 2, 2011
edited by Dakie
posted by Dakie
Thanks Dakie :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
Daks - to address doesn't take a 'to' - when I am addressing someone... High five. - afowen, Mar 2, 2011
Hey man, thanks, I was looking that on the answers but I didn't see one with my construction, thanks a lot. :) - Dakie, Mar 2, 2011
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Well, in Costa Rica it seems everyone is usted, even the dog!

I'm a bit older than my Costa Rican friend, and she refuses to stop using usted with me. I hate it tongue laugh

updated Mar 3, 2011
posted by Jack-OBrien
Usted is not used in Costa Rica, I was confused by this as well at first when I went there. :) - athegr8, Mar 2, 2011
Did you mean 'tu'? - terra-ist, Mar 2, 2011
Well, I suppose we don't use 'thou' any more and that would have seemed strange at first too! - terra-ist, Mar 2, 2011
Colombians and Costa Ricans use usted instead of tu, regardless of how close they are to the other persons. Argentineans, Uruguayans, Nicaraguans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans use Vos instead of Tú. There's no cut and dry answer. - gone, Mar 2, 2011
lol thanks Jack! - 00b6f46c, Mar 3, 2011
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Depends where you are.

In Colombia, loads of guys use usted with their mates, they tell me it's pretty gay for men to use tu when addressing one another.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by afowen
That's is fascinating... I'm going to ask the few Columbians I know of if that is true in their case. It could be a demographic thing too; and clearly related to sexuality fears. - yahvey_hoffman, Mar 2, 2011
I will ask a girl I know from Columbia if that is true and I can ask other friends too in Peru and other South American countries if that is their experience - FELIZ77, Mar 2, 2011
Great afowen thanks :) - 00b6f46c, Mar 2, 2011
I live in Bogota, for reference. The irony is that they use the word marica as one might use mate/buddy etc. - afowen, Mar 2, 2011
I'm not sure if it linked to fears. The bar manager of our club uses usted and is gay, I guess that by my above reasoning he should tutear everyone :-) - afowen, Mar 2, 2011